This week, Dan and dawn host as they share the keynote speech by Master Obsidian from Beyond Leather 2011! Then D&d talk about if you need to be "out" to be involved in the lifestyle, how to avoid being out, and just how not at all out they are!

Plus, we talk about our first time at the event Beyond Leather; we beat dawn's tail with out new toys; we introduce some scene music; talk about Red Moon Rising; and start packing to get home!

Scene music on today's episode is Chenille from the album Yami Kallima by Pocket Universe

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