FASD specialist and adoptive mom Sandra Flach joins Jesse to break down fetal alcohol spectrum disorder: what it actually is, why it hides behind behavior nobody understands, and why it's one of the most common and least discussed disabilities in foster care and adoption. Sandra shares her own family's diagnosis journey and the accommodations-based approach that finally helped her understand her sons instead of just managing their behavior. It's a conversation for anyone parenting a child whose brain might be working differently than expected, diagnosed or not.
Sandra Flach is co-founder of Justice for Orphans and an adoptive and kinship parent of six. After her own sons were diagnosed with fetal alcohol syndrome, she became a national voice on FASD, offering training, coaching, and a peer support community for foster and adoptive families.
Website: <a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/fasd">Justice for Orphans: FASD Training & Support</a>
<h3>Key Takeaways</h3>
<ul>
<li>
FASD is far more common than most people realize (one in twenty people prenatally exposed to alcohol, up to seventy percent of kids in foster care), yet true diagnosis is rare because doctors are trained to look for facial features present in fewer than ten percent of cases.
</li>
<li>
FASD symptoms overlap heavily with trauma and can look like willful defiance, but the brain difference is real: what looks like "won't" is usually "can't," especially around executive function, auditory processing, and daily living skills.
</li>
<li>
The path forward is accommodation, not consequence: understanding a child's specific struggles (memory, impulse control, sensory processing) and adjusting expectations the same way we already do for visible disabilities.
</li>
</ul>
<h3>Timestamped Outline</h3>
<ul>
<li>
00:00 – Introduction: meet Sandra Flach, adoptive and kinship mom, FASD specialist and advocate
</li>
<li>
00:01 – FASD 101: how common it actually is, and why it's called an invisible disability
</li>
<li>
00:08 – Getting a diagnosis: who can diagnose FASD, and why so few doctors do
</li>
<li>
00:13 – Why the standard diagnostic criteria miss 90% of cases
</li>
<li>
00:19 – Not a straight line: the "scribble" and FASD's scattered developmental profile
</li>
<li>
00:28 – Why it's not that they won't, it's that they can't: executive function and the brain
</li>
<li>
00:36 – The neurobehavioral approach: accommodations instead of consequences
</li>
<li>
00:40 – "A child with brain damage": the reframe that changed how Sandra saw her sons
</li>
<li>
00:46 – Grief, interdependence, and redefining what success looks like
</li>
<li>
00:52 – Untangling shame, for parents, kids, and birth parents
</li>
<li>
01:03 – The long view: daily living skills, connection, and "not yet" instead of "never"
</li>
<li>
01:07 – Where to find Sandra: her support group, training, podcast, and a free gift
</li>
</ul>
<h3>Resources Mentioned</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/fasd">Justice for Orphans: FASD Training & Support</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/hope-community">Hope Community (Sandra's online FASD support group)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/podcast">The Adoption & Foster Care Journey podcast</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.sandraflach.com/">Sandra Flach's site (Soul Care Saturday devotional and free breath prayers download)</a>
</li>
</ul>
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FASD specialist and adoptive mom Sandra Flach joins Jesse to break down fetal alcohol spectrum disorder: what it actually is, why it hides behind behavior nobody understands, and why it's one of the most common and least discussed disabilities in foster care and adoption. Sandra shares her own family's diagnosis journey and the accommodations-based approach that finally helped her understand her sons instead of just managing their behavior. It's a conversation for anyone parenting a child whose brain might be working differently than expected, diagnosed or not. Sandra Flach is co-founder of Justice for Orphans and an adoptive and kinship parent of six. After her own sons were diagnosed with fetal alcohol syndrome, she became a national voice on FASD, offering training, coaching, and a peer support community for foster and adoptive families. Website: Justice for Orphans: FASD Training & Support Key Takeaways FASD is far more common than most people realize (one in twenty people prenatally exposed to alcohol, up to seventy percent of kids in foster care), yet true diagnosis is rare because doctors are trained to look for facial features present in fewer than ten percent of cases. FASD symptoms overlap heavily with trauma and can look like willful defiance, but the brain difference is real: what looks like "won't" is usually "can't," especially around executive function, auditory processing, and daily living skills. The path forward is accommodation, not consequence: understanding a child's specific struggles (memory, impulse control, sensory processing) and adjusting expectations the same way we already do for visible disabilities. Timestamped Outline 00:00 – Introduction: meet Sandra Flach, adoptive and kinship mom, FASD specialist and advocate 00:01 – FASD 101: how common it actually is, and why it's called an invisible disability 00:08 – Getting a diagnosis: who can diagnose FASD, and why so few doctors do 00:13 – Why the standard diagnostic criteria miss 90% of cases 00:19 – Not a straight line: the "scribble" and FASD's scattered developmental profile 00:28 – Why it's not that they won't, it's that they can't: executive function and the brain 00:36 – The neurobehavioral approach: accommodations instead of consequences 00:40 – "A child with brain damage": the reframe that changed how Sandra saw her sons 00:46 – Grief, interdependence, and redefining what success looks like 00:52 – Untangling shame, for parents, kids, and birth parents 01:03 – The long view: daily living skills, connection, and "not yet" instead of "never" 01:07 – Where to find Sandra: her support group, training, podcast, and a free gift Resources Mentioned Justice for Orphans: FASD Training & Support Hope Community (Sandra's online FASD support group) The Adoption & Foster Care Journey podcast Sandra Flach's site (Soul Care Saturday devotional and free breath prayers download) Call to Action (CTA) ETC Shopify ETC Newsletter signup ETC Instagram ETC Facebook ETC YouTube ETC LinkedIn

FASD specialist and adoptive mom Sandra Flach joins Jesse to break down fetal alcohol spectrum disorder: what it actually is, why it hides behind behavior nobody understands, and why it's one of the most common and least discussed disabilities in foster care and adoption. Sandra shares her own family's diagnosis journey and the accommodations-based approach that finally helped her understand her sons instead of just managing their behavior. It's a conversation for anyone parenting a child whose brain might be working differently than expected, diagnosed or not.
Sandra Flach is co-founder of Justice for Orphans and an adoptive and kinship parent of six. After her own sons were diagnosed with fetal alcohol syndrome, she became a national voice on FASD, offering training, coaching, and a peer support community for foster and adoptive families.
Website: <a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/fasd" rel="noopener noreferrer">Justice for Orphans: FASD Training &amp; Support</a>
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li>
FASD is far more common than most people realize (one in twenty people prenatally exposed to alcohol, up to seventy percent of kids in foster care), yet true diagnosis is rare because doctors are trained to look for facial features present in fewer than ten percent of cases.
</li>
<li>
FASD symptoms overlap heavily with trauma and can look like willful defiance, but the brain difference is real: what looks like "won't" is usually "can't," especially around executive function, auditory processing, and daily living skills.
</li>
<li>
The path forward is accommodation, not consequence: understanding a child's specific struggles (memory, impulse control, sensory processing) and adjusting expectations the same way we already do for visible disabilities.
</li>
</ul>
Timestamped Outline
<ul>
<li>
00:00 – Introduction: meet Sandra Flach, adoptive and kinship mom, FASD specialist and advocate
</li>
<li>
00:01 – FASD 101: how common it actually is, and why it's called an invisible disability
</li>
<li>
00:08 – Getting a diagnosis: who can diagnose FASD, and why so few doctors do
</li>
<li>
00:13 – Why the standard diagnostic criteria miss 90% of cases
</li>
<li>
00:19 – Not a straight line: the "scribble" and FASD's scattered developmental profile
</li>
<li>
00:28 – Why it's not that they won't, it's that they can't: executive function and the brain
</li>
<li>
00:36 – The neurobehavioral approach: accommodations instead of consequences
</li>
<li>
00:40 – "A child with brain damage": the reframe that changed how Sandra saw her sons
</li>
<li>
00:46 – Grief, interdependence, and redefining what success looks like
</li>
<li>
00:52 – Untangling shame, for parents, kids, and birth parents
</li>
<li>
01:03 – The long view: daily living skills, connection, and "not yet" instead of "never"
</li>
<li>
01:07 – Where to find Sandra: her support group, training, podcast, and a free gift
</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/fasd" rel="noopener noreferrer">Justice for Orphans: FASD Training &amp; Support</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/hope-community" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hope Community (Sandra's online FASD support group)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.justicefororphansny.org/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Adoption &amp; Foster Care Journey podcast</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.sandraflach.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sandra Flach's site (Soul Care Saturday devotional and free breath prayers download)</a>
</li>
</ul>
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[E247] Understanding FASD: The Diagnosis 90% of Doctors Miss with Sandra Flach

What if the trust we struggle to give, to God, to people, even to ourselves, traces back to how our earliest needs were met? Counselor, author, and trainer Melinda Cathey joins Jesse to talk about how attachment shapes our ability to trust, why caregivers often have to start with their own stories, and what a corrective experience looks like for a child who has experienced stress, trauma, and adversity. This episode discusses faith openly: Melinda shares her Christian perspective and how attachment connects to trusting God, so it's a thoughtful, faith-forward conversation for anyone who loves a child who struggles to trust, or who has wrestled with trust themselves.
<h4>Key Takeaways</h4>
<ul>
<li>
Belief and trust are different things. Belief is cognitive (do I think you're telling the truth?), while trust is relational and only grows through experience with someone who has proven safe.
</li>
<li>
The four attachment styles (Secure, Anxious Avoidant, Anxious Ambivalent, and Disorganized) shape how we relate to people and, for many, how we picture God. Change starts with awareness, then picking one skill to work on with a friend or therapist.
</li>
<li>
Children who have experienced trauma need corrective experiences, not just corrected behavior. Caregivers do this work best when they've looked honestly at their own wounds first.
</li>
</ul>
<h4>Timestamped Outline</h4>
<ul>
<li>
00:00 – Introduction: meet Melinda Cathey
</li>
<li>
00:01 – Moving to Russia in 1992 and co-founding a transitional care program for young adults aging out of orphanages
</li>
<li>
00:04 – The 10 to 15 percent of young adults she couldn't reach
</li>
<li>
00:05 – Discovering Dr. Karen Purvis and TBRI
</li>
<li>
00:11 – Why Melinda wrote Deeper Than Belief
</li>
<li>
00:12 – Belief vs. trust
</li>
<li>
00:16 – Faith and psychology: what each side gets wrong
</li>
<li>
00:22 – Why healing starts with the caregiver
</li>
<li>
00:27 – The attachment cycle and the four attachment styles
</li>
<li>
00:40 – Corrective experiences for kids with hard beginnings
</li>
<li>
00:45 – Dependency by design
</li>
<li>
00:49 – Changing long-held patterns: awareness, "lights on," and picking one skill
</li>
<li>
00:53 – An invitation for those with church wounds
</li>
<li>
01:00 – Prayer and therapy: both/and
</li>
<li>
01:06 – Advice for parents and pastors sharing faith with children who have experienced trauma
</li>
<li>
01:09 – Final thoughts and wrap-up
</li>
</ul>
<h4>Guest Bio & Links</h4>
Melinda Cathey is a counselor, trainer, and author of Deeper Than Belief. After moving to Russia as a missionary in 1992, she co-founded The Harbor, a transitional care program for young adults aging out of orphanages, and now trains caregivers and ministry partners around the world.
Website: <a href="https://orphanos.org/partners/melinda-cathey/">Melinda Cathey at Orphanos</a>
<h4>Resources Mentioned</h4>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.kirkhousepublishers.com/product-page/deeper-than-belief-by-melinda-cathey">Deeper Than Belief by Melinda Cathey (from the publisher, Kirk House Publishers)</a>
</li>
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<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Book-Melinda-Cathey/dp/196842816X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JDZ5ZPMNZIR7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uUM-CMLlaMWNzvDUvypSZyvXSnSqh8OraaZI9rr1gkJCI5GZlengfVcKeT3Ad6hl.UnvsqbLcx0q4f8BUM28WBk0_JJfPeckREDPT1TI-_J8&dib_tag=se&keywords=melinda+Cathey&qid=1764985803&sprefix=melinda+cathey%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1">Deeper Than Belief on Amazon (paperback)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://bit.ly/444Ulj5">Deeper Than Belief on Amazon Kindle (e-book)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://orphanos.org/partners/melinda-cathey/">Orphanos missions</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DczVLkvAeX9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&stkn=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==">ETC's attachment cycle image (on Instagram)</a>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUol3w_AIY">ETC's attachment cycle animation</a> on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/EmpoweredtoConnect">YouTube</a>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCRJ3Zvk0gM">ETC's attachment styles animation</a> on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/EmpoweredtoConnect">YouTube</a>
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What if the trust we struggle to give, to God, to people, even to ourselves, traces back to how our earliest needs were met? Counselor, author, and trainer Melinda Cathey joins Jesse to talk about how attachment shapes our ability to trust, why caregivers often have to start with their own stories, and what a corrective experience looks like for a child who has experienced stress, trauma, and adversity. This episode discusses faith openly: Melinda shares her Christian perspective and how attachment connects to trusting God, so it's a thoughtful, faith-forward conversation for anyone who loves a child who struggles to trust, or who has wrestled with trust themselves. Key Takeaways Belief and trust are different things. Belief is cognitive (do I think you're telling the truth?), while trust is relational and only grows through experience with someone who has proven safe. The four attachment styles (Secure, Anxious Avoidant, Anxious Ambivalent, and Disorganized) shape how we relate to people and, for many, how we picture God. Change starts with awareness, then picking one skill to work on with a friend or therapist. Children who have experienced trauma need corrective experiences, not just corrected behavior. Caregivers do this work best when they've looked honestly at their own wounds first. Timestamped Outline 00:00 – Introduction: meet Melinda Cathey 00:01 – Moving to Russia in 1992 and co-founding a transitional care program for young adults aging out of orphanages 00:04 – The 10 to 15 percent of young adults she couldn't reach 00:05 – Discovering Dr. Karen Purvis and TBRI 00:11 – Why Melinda wrote Deeper Than Belief 00:12 – Belief vs. trust 00:16 – Faith and psychology: what each side gets wrong 00:22 – Why healing starts with the caregiver 00:27 – The attachment cycle and the four attachment styles 00:40 – Corrective experiences for kids with hard beginnings 00:45 – Dependency by design 00:49 – Changing long-held patterns: awareness, "lights on," and picking one skill 00:53 – An invitation for those with church wounds 01:00 – Prayer and therapy: both/and 01:06 – Advice for parents and pastors sharing faith with children who have experienced trauma 01:09 – Final thoughts and wrap-up Guest Bio & Links Melinda Cathey is a counselor, trainer, and author of Deeper Than Belief. After moving to Russia as a missionary in 1992, she co-founded The Harbor, a transitional care program for young adults aging out of orphanages, and now trains caregivers and ministry partners around the world. Website: Melinda Cathey at Orphanos Resources Mentioned Deeper Than Belief by Melinda Cathey (from the publisher, Kirk House Publishers) Deeper Than Belief on Amazon (paperback) Deeper Than Belief on Amazon Kindle (e-book) Orphanos missions ETC's attachment cycle image (on Instagram) ETC's attachment cycle animation on YouTube ETC's attachment styles animation on YouTube Find Us Here ETC Shopify ETC Newsletter signup ETC Instagram ETC Facebook ETC YouTube ETC LinkedIn

What if the trust we struggle to give, to God, to people, even to ourselves, traces back to how our earliest needs were met? Counselor, author, and trainer Melinda Cathey joins Jesse to talk about how attachment shapes our ability to trust, why caregivers often have to start with their own stories, and what a corrective experience looks like for a child who has experienced stress, trauma, and adversity. This episode discusses faith openly: Melinda shares her Christian perspective and how attachment connects to trusting God, so it's a thoughtful, faith-forward conversation for anyone who loves a child who struggles to trust, or who has wrestled with trust themselves.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li>
Belief and trust are different things. Belief is cognitive (do I think you're telling the truth?), while trust is relational and only grows through experience with someone who has proven safe.
</li>
<li>
The four attachment styles (Secure, Anxious Avoidant, Anxious Ambivalent, and Disorganized) shape how we relate to people and, for many, how we picture God. Change starts with awareness, then picking one skill to work on with a friend or therapist.
</li>
<li>
Children who have experienced trauma need corrective experiences, not just corrected behavior. Caregivers do this work best when they've looked honestly at their own wounds first.
</li>
</ul>
Timestamped Outline
<ul>
<li>
00:00 – Introduction: meet Melinda Cathey
</li>
<li>
00:01 – Moving to Russia in 1992 and co-founding a transitional care program for young adults aging out of orphanages
</li>
<li>
00:04 – The 10 to 15 percent of young adults she couldn't reach
</li>
<li>
00:05 – Discovering Dr. Karen Purvis and TBRI
</li>
<li>
00:11 – Why Melinda wrote Deeper Than Belief
</li>
<li>
00:12 – Belief vs. trust
</li>
<li>
00:16 – Faith and psychology: what each side gets wrong
</li>
<li>
00:22 – Why healing starts with the caregiver
</li>
<li>
00:27 – The attachment cycle and the four attachment styles
</li>
<li>
00:40 – Corrective experiences for kids with hard beginnings
</li>
<li>
00:45 – Dependency by design
</li>
<li>
00:49 – Changing long-held patterns: awareness, "lights on," and picking one skill
</li>
<li>
00:53 – An invitation for those with church wounds
</li>
<li>
01:00 – Prayer and therapy: both/and
</li>
<li>
01:06 – Advice for parents and pastors sharing faith with children who have experienced trauma
</li>
<li>
01:09 – Final thoughts and wrap-up
</li>
</ul>
Guest Bio &amp; Links
Melinda Cathey is a counselor, trainer, and author of Deeper Than Belief. After moving to Russia as a missionary in 1992, she co-founded The Harbor, a transitional care program for young adults aging out of orphanages, and now trains caregivers and ministry partners around the world.
Website: <a href="https://orphanos.org/partners/melinda-cathey/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Melinda Cathey at Orphanos</a>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.kirkhousepublishers.com/product-page/deeper-than-belief-by-melinda-cathey" rel="noopener noreferrer">Deeper Than Belief by Melinda Cathey (from the publisher, Kirk House Publishers)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Book-Melinda-Cathey/dp/196842816X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JDZ5ZPMNZIR7&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uUM-CMLlaMWNzvDUvypSZyvXSnSqh8OraaZI9rr1gkJCI5GZlengfVcKeT3Ad6hl.UnvsqbLcx0q4f8BUM28WBk0_JJfPeckREDPT1TI-_J8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=melinda+Cathey&amp;qid=1764985803&amp;sprefix=melinda+cathey%2Caps%2C157&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Deeper Than Belief on Amazon (paperback)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://bit.ly/444Ulj5" rel="noopener noreferrer">Deeper Than Belief on Amazon Kindle (e-book)</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://orphanos.org/partners/melinda-cathey/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Orphanos missions</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DczVLkvAeX9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;stkn=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==" rel="noopener noreferrer">ETC's attachment cycle image (on Instagram)</a>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUol3w_AIY" rel="noopener noreferrer">ETC's attachment cycle animation</a> on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/EmpoweredtoConnect" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCRJ3Zvk0gM" rel="noopener noreferrer">ETC's attachment styles animation</a> on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/EmpoweredtoConnect" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a>
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[E248] The Attachment Style Quietly Shaping Your Faith with Melinda Cathey

In episode 1, we're joined by Mo and Tona Ottinger, who give leadership to Empowered to Connect! We talk about what Empowered to Connect is - how it started, the core ideas and one major shift - moving to 'healing centered engagement and what that means. 
To learn more about ETC, visit us at our <a href="empoweredtoconnect.org">website</a>, follow us on <a href="instagram.com/empoweredtoconnect">Instagram</a> or find us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/connectedchild">Facebook</a>!

In episode 1, we're joined by Mo and Tona Ottinger, who give leadership to Empowered to Connect! We talk about what Empowered to Connect is - how it started, the core ideas and one major shift - moving to 'healing centered engagement and what that means. To learn more about ETC, visit us at our website, follow us on Instagram or find us on Facebook!

In episode 1, we're joined by Mo and Tona Ottinger, who give leadership to Empowered to Connect! We talk about what Empowered to Connect is - how it started, the core ideas and one major shift - moving to 'healing centered engagement and what that means.&nbsp;
To learn more about ETC, visit us at our <a href="empoweredtoconnect.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">website</a>, follow us on <a href="instagram.com/empoweredtoconnect" rel="noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> or find us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/connectedchild" rel="noopener noreferrer">Facebook</a>!

[E1] What is ETC?

In episode 1, we're joined by Mo and Tona Ottinger, who give leadership to Empowered to Connect! We talk about what Empowered to Connect is - how it started, the core ideas and one major shift - moving to 'healing centered engagement and what that means. 
To learn more about ETC, visit us at our website, follow us on Instagram or find us on Facebook!

In episode 1, we're joined by Mo and Tona Ottinger, who give leadership to Empowered to Connect! We talk about what Empowered to Connect is - how it started, the core ideas and one major shift - moving to 'healing centered engagement and what that means.&nbsp;
To learn more about ETC, visit us at our website, follow us on Instagram or find us on Facebook!

What is ETC? Ep 1

The Empowered to Connect Podcast a place where we come together to discuss an attachment rich, healing centered approach to engagement and well being for ourselves, our families and our communities.

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