We take our deepest dive yet, as Joe's recent experience of being hypnotised (or not being hypnotised, as he claims) leads us to explore the fascinating story of the CIA's secretive mind control programme, MK Ultra.

We hear tales of secret brothels, bogus medical studies, fake hippie houses, and an awful lot of LSD; and we cross paths with the JFK assassination and Charles Manson - all as part of a secretive, bizarre mission to find ways to take control of the human mind.

Along with that there's the completely separate matter of Darren's FIFA 23 addiction (and Joe's total inability to understand it), and Darren's hopes that he can someday turn it into a lucrative streaming career.