Some of you might be mad at us after this conversation—you've been warned! We're out here bursting some spiritual bubbles today in the name of truth, realness, and not being distracted by "spiritual specialness."

Ascension, initiations, and dark nights are popular topics in spiritual circles and communities, and like a lot of things, we take for granted that we know what these terms actually mean and how they actually work. This episode is an exploration of the three to demystify any confusion and also help us ground into what we see as the most nuanced and responsible explanations for each. We also get into how to tell when illnesses and injuries have spiritual significance and when you're just having an experience because you live in a human body, and it's part of the gig!

We can't wait to hear what you think!

(2:14) How spiritual self-importance and drama creep into our real, rooted experiences and distract us.

(6:00) What happens when we initiate but don't integrate

(10:00) Real change happens incrementally over time—even when we think it's sudden!

(14:33) Five ingredients for meaningful experiences whether you realize what they are while you're going through them or not

(19:00) Where a lot of people miss the mark on what "ascension" really is

(29:35) The importance of mastering the basics and setting foundations

(35:08) How to tell when illnesses and injuries have spiritual significance

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