It feels weird to say we’re so excited to share this conversation about grief with you, but we are because we’re both huge believers in the alchemical healing power of grief. From the relationship between grief and anger to the relationship between grief and joy and the difference between grief and sadness, we discuss the many octaves of grieving and everything that opens up in our lives when we allow ourselves to feel this powerful emotion. We talk about why people are afraid of grief, how far-reaching grief is (it’s not just for death or break-ups!), and share our own experiences of grieving and how we witness and support people who are grieving.

We hope this one makes you feel really seen, supported, and acknowledged, especially if you’re a big, deep feeler who doesn’t just grieve for your own life but for the world, too.

(2:00) A convo about phrases like “If you’re not grieving you’re not paying attention

(4:30) Relationship between grief and anger

(8:00) For people who are afraid of grief

(14:00) The difference between grief and sadness

(21:00) When feeling a “backlog” of grief

(27:00) Various things to grief outside of death and break-ups

(34:00) On impermanence and grief

(40:00) When is “conscious numbing” appropriate

(44:00) Grieving the death of the world as we knew it, and in personal cases our lives as we knew them

Resources mentioned:

• Wild Edge of Sorrow
• Caravan of No Despair
• Wild Edge of Sorrow
• EP 185 Sarah Nannen on Grief Unveiled on Spotify and on Apple Podcasts

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