Episode 223 is a little bit different... instead of our usual episode style with one or two guests, we go big!

A fortnight ago Dr Jake & David appeared at one of Australia's biggest conferences, 'Aesthetics'. This annual meeting is convened by Dr Steven Liew, a renowned Plastic Surgeon and previous guest on IA on episodes 64, 126 &192. The goal of the Aesthetics conference is to disrupt the current way of doing things and to explore innovative ideas on how to improve safety and efficacy for both industry professionals and patients.

This year was no different and Dr Jake & David were invited to also do something totally new - a live podcast with a large selection of guests - in only 23 minutes! The brief from Steven was simple, 'Make people think'.

Our expert injector panel consisted of:

• Dr Lee Walker
• Dr Tapan Patel
• Dr Rungsima Wanitphakdeedecha
• Dr Dalvi Humzah
• Dr Zunaid Alli
• Dr Beatriz Molina

00:00 Introduction 01:02 Ultrasound Course Discount 02:57 What Is A23 Conference 04:55 Why We Were On Stage 09:10 Panel Format and Time Pressure 10:59 Live Panel Begins 13:31 Fillers and the Idea of Lift 14:52 KOL Meaning and Bias 18:27 Sterility in Live Injecting 21:18 Bulk Buying Ethics Debate 26:25 Threads and Patient Selection 30:08 Do Fillers Really Differ 33:29 Who Should Be Allowed Inject 36:15 Post Panel Debrief 38:45 KOLs and real opinions 40:13 Bias and echo chambers 41:37 Radical transparency on stage 42:46 Multi brand KOL rules 47:06 Tribalism and rep pressure 48:53 Using other products 52:09 Bulk buying ethics 61:45 FOMO and business acumen 64:07 Stock control and expiry 68:49 Wrap up and next year

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