We all know who ISIS is, and we all know there’s a major worldwide refugee crisis. But what does it even mean? What does it look like on the ground? In this chat Tsh talks to Jeremy and Jessica Courtney from their house in Iraq, where they’ve lived for almost a decade. We talk about ISIS, who they are, what they’re doing, what it looks like right in front of their faces. And we talk about soap—a really, really cool thing they’ve helped start to help Iraqis fighting for their lives, their homes, and their dignity so that they can provide for their families. Links from this episode: Preemptive Love Sisterhood Soap Kinsman Soap In Iraq, chemical-free is more than a luxury Jeremy's favorite thing: the Sleep playlist on Spotify Tsh’s favorite thing: Chuck on Netlflix Leave a quick review of The Simple Show on iTunes! Sign up for the weekly digest email For photos and videos of this work in action, head to the show notes of this episode.