Welcome back, babes, to the Scale Your Sales Podcast! Today’s episode is a raw and unfiltered conversation between Jillian Murphy and her longtime friend and fellow entrepreneur, Katie, that’s been a year and a half in the making. Together, they dive deep into what it really looks like behind the scenes of building a business—from hiring mistakes and mentorship red flags to defining success on your own terms. If you’ve ever felt like you’re chasing someone else’s version of success or struggling with how much of your personal story to share online, this episode is for you.

This honest, behind-the-scenes conversation is a must-listen for any CEO who’s navigating the messy middle, questioning their next steps, or simply wants to build a business that actually feels good.

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