Pastor Amy Butler joins Steve to discuss her struggle with faith, coping with loss, and experiences as a female pastor in a male-dominated tradition--and how community and ritual brought her healing and peace.

Pastor Amy Butler is the Designated Pastor at the Community Church of Honolulu in Hawai’i. Previously, she served for five years as Senior Minister and first woman at the helm of The Riverside Church in the City of New York. She’s also served as pastor in churches in Washington, D.C., and New Orleans. She recently founded Invested Faith, which helps individuals and religious institutions use their assets to fund the work of faith-rooted social entrepreneurs building businesses that are changing unjust systems.

Pastor Amy grew up in Hawaii, the daughter of a leader in the Hawaiian community. She is the author of a memoir, Beautiful and Terrible Things, and more recently, Holy Disruption.