Every door you manage takes time, energy, and risk. But what if the real wealth isn’t in managing more doors, it’s in owning more of them?

In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez unpacks a seismic question from Mark Brower, sparked on a desert drive home from the Grand Canyon:
"Is it too hard to scale?" or 'Even if I scale it… will it still matter?”

Sparked by Warren Buffett’s timeless advice and Peter Lohmann’s Top 20 PM Companies list, this conversation is a wake-up call for anyone stuck on the treadmill of operational growth.

Pablo unpacks how the game is changing and what the smartest PMs are doing instead:

🔁 Why even top property management companies are showing cracks (churn, consolidation, and unsustainable scaling models)

🤖 How AI in property management, regulatory pressure, and the generational wealth transfer are reshaping the ground beneath your business

🏗 Why the next wave of PMs aren’t just scaling, they’re building leverage through real estate ownership

💼 How Tracy Streich, Nicholas Cook, and Ed Kirch are compounding wealth by owning, not just managing

If you’re still counting doors, it’s time to ask a harder, better question:
Are you building a business the future still wants or one the present is already outgrowing?

🎧 Listen now and discover why the future belongs to those who own, not just manage.

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Chapters:

01:05 The Uncomfortable PM Truth in Peter Lohmann’s Top 20
02:10 What Are You Really Scaling and Why?
03:15 The Hidden Win in 300 Doors
04:10 The Three Earthquakes: AI, Regulation, and Generational Shift
05:45 2030 Is 2025 on Fast-Forward
06:30 When Property Management Becomes the Problem
07:15 PM As Flywheel, Not Finish Line
08:05 Tracy Streich Turning Friction into Equity
08:45 Nicholas Cook Building the Forever Fund
09:25 Ed Kirch Owning the Majority of His Own Doors
10:00 From ROI to ROA (Return on Agency)
10:40 The Real Risk: Scaling the Vanishing Layer