In this episode of The Birth Lounge Podcast, HeHe sits down with Dr. Joel Gator Warsh, a pediatrician known for his refreshingly transparent and evidence-based approach to children’s health. Together, they unpack one of the most emotionally charged topics in parenting—vaccines.

HeHe and Dr. Gator talk openly about the gaps in vaccine research, the importance of truly informed consent, and what every parent deserves to understand before making decisions for their family. They explore everything from the new RSV vaccine and aluminum adjuvants to SIDS and medical ethics—all through the lens of curiosity, compassion, and critical thinking.

This isn’t about fear or finger-pointing—it’s about facts, trust, and empowering you to make confident, informed choices for your baby.

00:00 Introduction to Vaccine Debate

01:16 The Birth Lounge Podcast Introduction

01:23 Debunking the 'Big Baby' Myth

03:32 Introducing the 'Pushing Out Your Big Ass Baby' Course

05:29 Vaccine Exploration Series Recap

05:50 In-Depth Vaccine Discussion with Dr. Joel Gator

07:46 Challenges in Vaccine Research and Public Trust

12:21 Ethics and Future of Vaccine Studies

45:42 Pushback Against Vaccines

46:18 The Need for Open Dialogue

47:30 Personal Experiences and Public Trust

50:16 Ethical Dilemmas in Pediatric Care

57:33 Herd Immunity and Vaccine Efficacy

01:06:13 The Quest for Clean Deodorant

01:13:14 Complexities of Vaccine Safety

01:19:35 Chronic Disease and Medical Humility

01:29:00 Questioning Vaccine Safety Standards

01:30:28 The Controversy of Vaccine Skepticism

01:33:09 The Need for Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Studies

01:39:31 SIDS and Vaccines: A Complex Relationship

01:46:07 Aluminum in Vaccines: Concerns and Debates

01:53:16 The New RSV Vaccine: What You Need to Know

02:01:03 Final Thoughts and Gratitude

Guest Bio:

Joel Warsh aka DrJoelGator of the popular parenting Instagram account and substack is a Board-Certified Pediatrician in Los Angeles, California who specializes in Parenting, Wellness and Integrative Medicine.  He is the author of multiple books including his latest, Between a Shot and a Hard Place: Tackling Difficult Vaccine Questions with Balance, Data, and Clarity, 

He grew up in Toronto, Canada and completed a Master’s Degree in Epidemiology before earning his medical degree from Thomas Jefferson Medical College.

He completed his Pediatric Medicine training at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles and then worked in private practice in Beverly Hills before founding his current practice, Integrative Pediatrics.

Dr. Gator has published research in peer-reviewed journals on topics including childhood injuries, obesity and physical activity.

He has been featured in numerous documentaries, films, summits, podcasts and articles.

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