In this deeply nourishing conversation, the Aunties are joined by Michelle Cassandra Johnson— author, grief-tender, activist, and longtime guide in collective healing. Together, they weave a wide-ranging and intimate dialogue on grief as a sacred practice, the wisdom of honeybees and superorganisms, reimagining leadership beyond ego and hierarchy, and what it means to live, serve, and belong in a fractured world. This episode touches on ancestral memory, collective responsibility, nervous system truth, and why healing was never meant to be an individual endeavor. Michelle shares insights from her book Wisdom of the Hive, reflections on loss and aging, and an ancient practice called Telling the Bees — a ritual of sharing both sorrow and joy with the more-than-human world. If you're navigating grief, longing for deeper community, questioning the systems we've inherited, or searching for hope that feels real (not performative), this conversation offers a steady, honest place to land. Come listen for the bees, stay for the belonging. Experience the conversation face-to-face—head over to YouTube to watch the episode HERE Follow Michelle Cassandra Johnson

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