Sephy and Wing are the hosts of the Goes Without Saying Podcast.

In this episode we discuss: why we are never too old to start something new, the perception of failure and how it is often in our heads, the concept of the imagined audience, why creative people procrastinate more, the new concept of work for our generation, do creativity and capitalism work in opposition, our rational vs irrational selves and much more!

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Keywords

podcast, self-discovery, mental health, authenticity, fear of failure, emotional awareness, imagined audience, personal growth, online presence, navigating anxiety, vulnerability, authenticity, podcasting, purpose, friendship, connection, women empowerment, creativity, mental health, emotional support, women empowerment, friendship, business dynamics, kindness, work perception, generational perspectives, privilege, creative careers, happiness, authenticity

02:35 - 03:28 is 22 too old to start something new?

03:28 - 06:36 looking for permission or validation to do something

06:36 - 09:34 how I started a podcast

09:34- 13:36 perception of failure

13:36- 17:31 the concept of the imagined audience

17:31- 22:28 rational self vs irrational self

22:28 - 24:39 listening to our bodies and recognising the signs - fight, flight freeze

24:39 - 27:32 tracing emotions to the root cause

27:32 - 30:53 creating relatable content online

30:53 - 37:59 how our perception of success in the future is often inaccurate

37:59 - 49:56 finding purpose and why creative people procrastinate much more

49:56 - 56:38 why relatable content creators become like friends - following them through life Zoella

56:38 - 01:04:12 working with your friends in business as creative people

01:04:12- 01:13:42 the new concept of work in 2025 and perceptions and expectations

01:13:42 - 01:22:15 tensions between generations of perception of working hard and work ethics