Live Through Love with Ruben Rojas

Ep. 68 - Is the World of Therapy Broken? And the Journey of Both Liking and Loving Yourself with John Kim and Vanessa Bennett


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Licensed Therapists Vanessa Bennett and John Kim (aka the Angry Therapist) are changing the narratives around therapy, self-love, personal responsibility, and relationships.

The pair speaks candidly about the tumultuous journey of liking and loving yourself, as well as how expensive and broken the therapy system is, yet how vital it is to our collective wellness. They also uncover the root of cancel culture, how opinions are being weaponized, and what you should look for in a therapist.

How do John and Vanessa define love? Love is a moment-by-moment action that we choose. Love is a living, breathing thing that doesn’t dwell on what was, will be, or could be, but it’s accepting and living in what is now.

Key Highlights

  • John and Vanessa detail why they became therapists after being unhappy (and angry) in their careers
  • What’s the difference between a coach and a therapist? Can you be a therapist or coach at any age/experience level?
  • “Trauma is subjective”
  • The Affordability of Therapy: The mental health system in America is broken, but there are ways you can access therapy for less money
  • What should you look for in a therapist? When should you break up with your therapist?
  • The journey of liking yourself vs. loving yourself and combatting negative self-talk
  • Our collective responsibility in making the world a better place & White women’s role in ending gun violence (or any problem)
  • How therapy and opinions are being weaponized
  • “Cancel culture comes from hiding, not from showing yourself.”

Follow John Kim @theangrytherapist

Follow Vanessa Bennett @vanessasbennett

Buy their book, It’s Not Me, It’s You: Break the Blame Cycle. Relationship Better.

Love Notes from John Kim & Vanessa Bennett:

Loving is a process. Love is active. So, it’s through the process of loving other people that you also learn to love yourself.

Never exchange your truth for membership.

Each of us is one cup of an ocean.

Accountability can still be had without demonizing or cancelling.

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