Guest Info/Bio: This week we bring back a dear friend and one of our favorite guests of all time, Dr. Alexander Shaia. One of the things we wanted to do for the listeners, but even more so our friends, was to try our best to paint a picture of the journey that our friend Simon was getting ready to embark on. And so, we called in the expert and the guy who literally wrote the book on it. In fact, Simon had that very book with him when he left for Spain. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did and that you at least get a sense of the power and meaning behind the Camino. Dr. Shaia is an international speaker, author, and teacher. He studied cultural anthropology at Notre Dame University, and also has a PhD in Clinical Psychology. Alexander is the author of the revolutionary book, “Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation.” This episode is dedicated in loving memory to Simon Forsythe. Guest Social Media: www.quadratos.com Facebook: @walkwithheartandmind Special Music By: Rivers & Robots www.riversandrobots.com Facebook: @riversandrobots Twitter: @riversandrobots Instagram: @riversandrobots Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “We have overcome” & “Light Will Dawn” from the album, All Things New; “Home” from the album, The Eternal Son; and “Dreams” & “Discovery” from the album, Discovery, You can find Rivers & Robot’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.