In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) and Maddie Weinreich (Master coach and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about the different roles that exist within relationships 

The conversation covers a range of topics including: 

• The geographic strata of relationships and how it can help us to work with the dynamics of relationships that are happening at different levels
• The value in identifying and naming roles for a relationship system
• The difference between outer and inner roles and how to work with the challenges that can show up at these different levels
• The power of putting the role out in front and embracing the RSI principle that holds that roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit those roles. 

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do and how we live.

Maddie Weinreich is a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification.  Maddie holds the Master Certified Coach (MCC) credential with the International Coaches Federation (ICF) and specializes in strengthening the interpersonal relationships that exist within business environments for the purpose of enhancing team performance and productivity. She coaches leadership teams around the globe to navigate change and to effectively improve organizational cultures within large and small businesses. In addition to coaching and training business teams, Maddie also works with dynamic couples who choose to be the architects of their relationship.


For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.