She dreamed about spanking parties all her life, but it wasn't until a chance encounter with a certain podcast (who, us?) that veteran and award-winning little (oops, spoilers!), Hilly, realized her dream could come true!

Now this veteran of the leather community, pack member, and littles educator joins us to discuss the littles scene, how welcoming spankos are to littles, and even how to know if you may be a little yourself.

Wait, Leather AND Littles? Yes, it can be a thing. And Hilly exemplifies the combination and explains how it can work. And for those who may not be familiar with Leather OR Littles, Hilly explains both!

If you don't understand littles, if you are curious about them, if you have a little in your life, or if you identify as one yourself, this is an episode you won't want to miss.