WE ALL WANT THIS TO BE OVER.

And Jessica helps us understand when we can say it's finally over.

This week we dive deep into the ethos of Jessica Malaty Rivera.

Infectious disease epidemiologist and science communication lead at the COVID Tracking Project.

She has spent the last 16 months of her life trying to communicate the science behind Covid19 to people across the planet.

I know that there are MANY different points of view with it comes to this stuff but what I ask is that you listen to understand Not listen to reply or debate.

My goal with this interview isn't to get you to land on some worldview...

It's to get us to understand each other.

I am grateful for Jessica and her colleagues who have devoted their entire professional lives to helping us...

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