Natasha Pentin is joined by Dr. Joe Tafur himself and Xochi Bucuru. Dr. Tafur is a Colombo-American integrative physician, traditionally trained spiritual healer (Ayahuasquero), and highly acclaimed author. Xochi is a Colombian traditional healer (Yagecera), educator, and promoter of Indigenous community projects. 

They discuss supporting Indigenous traditions, navigating the learning curve of ancestral healing, advice for finding respectful plant medicine ceremonies, the power of music, discernment, upcoming projects, and more.

Modern Spirit Website: https://www.modernspirit.org/ 

Joe’s books: 

Timestamps: 

(00:00) Introduction to the Modern Spirit Podcast

(00:47) Introducing the Guests: Dr. Joe Tafur & Xochi Bucuru

(02:15) How Joe & Xochi Met

(04:17) Elevating Indigenous Voices

(06:37) Combining Science and Spirit

(09:10) Yagé Used As Medicine

(10:32) The Influence of Many Teachers

(11:56) Combining Traditions in Ceremony

(19:45) The Power of Music in Healing 

(25:50) Unlocking Your Natural Healing Intelligence 

(30:50) Discernment & Interpreting Messages

(36:04) Finding Safe Spiritual Experiences 

(38:55) Building Genuine Relationships 

(42:54) Conserving Traditional Knowledge & Social Mobility 

(50:22) Xochi’s Upcoming Projects 

(53:22) Overcoming Stereotypes 

(55:14) How to Hear More 

(56:47) Seeking Donations for Scholarships