In this conversation, Emma shares her experiences living in Johannesburg, her journey through immigration, and her passion for training and racing in triathlons and running. She discusses the balance between her professional commitments and personal goals, the pressures of being a professional athlete, and the importance of community and role models in sports. Emma also highlights her efforts to support young athletes and the challenges of encouraging female participation in running. Seth Hill and Emma go on to discuss the journey of cultivating passion in sports, the importance of community and human connection, and the balance between performance and enjoyment. Emma shares her experiences in building a running club in her community, the lessons learned from personal growth, and the spiritual reflections that have shaped her perspective. They emphasize the significance of being passionate about one's pursuits and the impact of connecting deeply with others.