The search for knowledge sometimes involves tedious, patient work when it comes to understanding the diet of our distant ancestors.    It can involve charcoal analysis at a microscopic level from campfires from 10,000 BC.   It can involve the scrapings of carbonized food remains from pottery shards that are clues to what was eaten or used medicinally.    It's not particularly flashy or exciting like demonstrating fire by friction to a group of fifth graders, but Max Gordon actually does both.

Max founded the Lionman School of Rewilding and offers programs in nature awareness, earth living skills and crafts in New York, New Jersey and Florida, but his passion extends both forward to future generations while also looking back to the distant past to see our trajectories of human evolution.   Our conversation dives into cave art, Utzi the Iceman, wilderness school administration life and even medieval biology.    

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