Welcome back to The Profit Lifestyle for Fitness Entrepreneurs with Scott Carpenter and Andy Miller!

This episode hits home for every gym owner who’s ever said:

👉 “I don’t have enough leads.”

👉 “If I just had more leads, my problems would be solved.”

The truth? “More leads” isn’t always the answer. In fact, chasing volume without clarity can keep you stuck in grind mode forever.

Scott and Andy break down:

✅ Why “I need more leads” is too vague—and how to define your real number.

✅ The math behind churn, conversion, and client value that reveals exactly how many leads you actually need.

✅ Why organic marketing always beats chasing cheap Facebook leads.

✅ Simple, proven tactics for consistent local exposure (farmers markets, open houses, community workouts, even “Coffee with a Coach”).

✅ How to flip referrals into a perk of membership instead of just an ask.

By the end, you’ll see that the gap between where you are now and where you want to be isn’t as big as you think—it just requires clarity, not guesswork.

🚀 Gym Profits Summit 2025

This November, join Scott Carpenter and special guest Matt Wilber (multi-location gym owner & creator of the 7-Figure Marketing Method) in Scottsdale, AZ for two full days of hands-on implementation.

📍 Venue: Venue8600 – 8600 E Anderson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85255

📅 Dates: November 14–15, 2025

🎟️ Seats: Capped at 120 gym owners only

Inside the room you’ll learn:

• Build a Winnable Model – Profit with 150–200 members (no endless volume chase).
• High-Ticket Sales Framework – Add $10K–$20K/month without needing more members.
• 7-Figure Marketing Method – Flood your gym with paid trials (no wasted ad spend).
• Retention & Pricing Power – Why charging more keeps clients longer and happier.
• Workshop-Style Implementation – Do the work in the room. Leave with scripts, offers, and systems ready to roll out on Monday.

👉 Waitlist now open: https://gymprofitssummit.com/

⚠️ Tickets will sell out—only waitlist members get first access.

When You’re Ready, Here’s How We Can Help:

1️⃣ Subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode.

2️⃣ Join our free community for gym owners: The Profit Lifestyle Facebook Group.

3️⃣ Book a free call to build your profitable business model: ptlegends.com/1on1call

📧 Questions about the summit? Email us at [email protected]

🔥 Build a business that gives you both income and freedom. See you in Scottsdale this November!