In this episode, Josh and Ella discuss the difference between feelings of anxiety and when anxiety becomes a disorder. Comparing it to a sleep disorder or an eating disorder, an anxiety disorder is something uncomfortable that keeps happening, but can be overcome. An anxiety disorder occurs when one finds themselves in a downward spiral of anxious behaviour, so much so that a tactic they are using to comfort themselves may be causing more harm to their recovery. Using examples drawn from his professional practice, Josh quizzes Ella on how to identify one or the other. Ella shares her experience of feeling anxious before a gig compared to unexpected anxiety while making dinner.

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