The Carlos Whittaker Podcast

Episode 28: Don’t Stand On Issues, Walk With People Series: Pillar 1 - Seeking Understanding Not Victory


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We’re unpacking the six pillars of our motto: Don’t stand on issues, walk with people.

This episode focuses on the first pillar: We seek understanding not victory. 

We prioritize listening and learning over winning arguments. We believe both are possible. We hold our beliefs fiercely, but we hold them with open hands, not clenched fists.

In the age of TikTok, X, and a 24-hour news cycle, it’s easy to feel like an expert on topics we actually don’t know much about. And when we feel like an expert on something, seeking understanding can feel pointless, because we already know everything, right? 

We’ve got to get to the place where we know that we don’t know everything. And that’s okay.

So how do we seek understanding? Here are a few ideas:

  • Be an active listener. (Hint: it’s impossible to be an active listener on social media, so maybe have those conversations offline.)
  • Limit distractions. Leave your phone in another room.
  • Remember that just because someone stops talking, doesn’t mean you need to start.
  • Flip the funnel: ask open-ended questions to gain a fuller picture of what the other person believes
  • Remember that the other person and their beliefs are not a problem to solve. And a single conversation isn’t going to change that.
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    Listen to last week’s episode for an overview of the six pillars here: https://pod.link/1249486443/episode/17ea0d74dace025534324e77893ca97d 

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