Natalie "Buzz" Pliler, a 24-year old I took out once 3 years ago joined me in a warm conversation about vulnerability, finding confidence, discovering what it means to be cool, therapy, depression, and the legacy we all hope to leave behind. Her moxie and charm make it very difficult to not instantly like her, and her ability to juxtapose quick humor and silliness with profound depth is truly admirable. 

 

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