In this episode, BJ and Jess sit down to explore what it really means to race free—to show up for your goals with full heart and zero attachment.

BJ shares his winning mindset as he prepares for Ironman Arizona, revealing what it takes to truly go for the win. Jess brings insight from her own path toward El Cruce, a three-day ultramarathon through the Andes, and the inner transformation that’s unfolded along the way.

Together, they unpack:

It’s raw, real, and full of lessons from the front lines of racing, relationship, and self-mastery. Enjoy the show!