Deb Pilcher's grief journey began years before her husband's death, with the stillbirth of their first daughter, Anna.

In a surprising twist, that first devastating loss was the catalyst for healing and hope when her husband, Wally, was killed in a driving accident that left her oldest son in critical condition. Deb was given an image that to this day allows her to reframe her grief and feel joy in spite of her devastating losses.

Deb's story—marked by child loss, widowhood, two battles with cancer, and a new marriage—is shared here to bring hope to others who are grieving.

Hope is a superpower!

00:00:00 - Introduction and Guest Introduction
Whitney introduces Holly and Deb, sharing the significance of Deb's support during her early widowhood.

00:01:30 - Deb's Grief Journey Begins
Deb recounts the beginning of her grief journey with the stillbirth of her first daughter and the subsequent loss of her husband, Wally.

00:02:50 - The Impact of Wally's Death
Deb shares the details of Wally's tragic death in a car accident and the immediate aftermath for her and their children.

00:05:00 - Jacob's Survival and Trauma
Discussion about Jacob's injuries from the accident and the challenges of communicating the news of Wally's death to him.

00:08:00 - The Role of Friends and Family
Deb reflects on the support she received from friends and family during the crisis and the importance of community.

00:10:30 - Navigating Grief and Denial
Deb discusses her initial denial of Wally's death and her focus on Jacob's recovery.

00:12:30 - The Long Road of Grief
Deb explains how she coped with her grief over the years, focusing on her children and gradually processing her loss.

00:15:00 - Finding Joy Amidst Grief
Deb shares how she reframed her grief and found moments of joy, including the concept of "reunion day."

00:20:00 - The Challenge of Moving Forward
Discussion on the fear of moving on from grief and the struggle to let go of memories.

00:23:00 - Humor in Grief
Deb and Whitney talk about the importance of humor in coping with grief and share funny anecdotes.

00:27:00 - Dating After Loss
Deb discusses her journey to dating again after Wally's death and the challenges she faced.

00:30:00 - Meeting Clay
Deb shares the story of how she met her current husband, Clay, through her friends.

00:35:00 - The Wedding and Family Dynamics
Deb describes her wedding to Clay and how her children have adjusted to the new family dynamics.

00:40:00 - Balancing Memories of the Past
Deb talks about the importance of acknowledging Wally's flaws while celebrating his memory and ensuring her children understand that no one is perfect.