Good Hard Story Podcast

Episode 63: Wonderful/Terrible: Cultivating a Gritty Faith Instead of a Pretty Faith with Kay Warren


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In this episode of the GoodHard Story Podcast, Katherine discovers a kindred spirit in Kay Warren, who founded the beloved Saddleback Church with her husband Rick. Kay and Rick have endured the earth-shattering loss of one of their sons, who died by suicide in 2013.

Both Katherine and Kay were in tears by the end of the conversation, which spans from the complexities of mental illness to the life-saving power of respite to the privilege of sitting with suffering people. Kay could not have been more generous in sharing her hard-won insights into the most terrible kind of grief.
What you’ll take away from this conversation…

  • What to do when God stops making sense
  • The single experience that can make us more Christlike
  • The one question you should never ask someone who is suffering
  • How a marriage can withstand unimaginable loss
  • If you need to hear a story of deep hurt and even deeper hope, this episode is for you.

    Show Notes

    Hope for Mental Health: https://hope4mentalhealth.com/
    Breathe: https://saddleback.com/connect/ministry/outreach-retreats
    The Wounder Healer by Henri Nouwen - https://henrinouwen.org/read/the-wounded-healer/
    Lews Smedes - https://digitalcommons.calvin.edu/smedes_recordings/
    Walter Brueggemann - https://www.walterbrueggemann.com/resources/
    “Pay mind to your own life, your own health, and wholeness. A bleeding heart is of no help to anyone if it bleeds to death.” - Frederick Buechner
    Scriptures referenced in this episode:
    1 Corinthians 15:43-45
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