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Hey beloveds—
This week, everything we’re sharing centers around one raw, holy truth:
Sometimes, on your emotional wellness journey, your joy will look like betrayal to the people closest to you.
Maybe it’s your mother.
Maybe it’s your church.
Maybe it’s a friend who only knew how to love the broken version of you.
But your joy—if it came through grief, healing, and becoming—is not selfish. It’s sacred.
In this episode, Paul and Ashley go deep and raw into the emotional and spiritual tension that arises when your growth, your peace, your joy—hurts someone you love.
We talk about:
What it means when Jesus refused to go to his mother, Mary
The emotional toll of becoming someone your people don’t recognize
Why your sacred yes may sound like a violent no to someone else
⚠️ Content Note:This episode includes discussion of trauma and suicidal ideation. Please care for your well-being as you listen.
If you're in a vulnerable place, consider pausing, checking in with a friend, therapist, or someone you trust. You’re not alone.
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When Your Joy Is Someone Else’s Tragedy
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Trump’s grip on media slips as he continues to bungle the Epstein issue
Social Media a problem for children
The online incel world is impacting children - something needs to be done.
Why spiritual reconstruction demands media literacy
How faith, justice, and power intersect in the digital age
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In this episode of Evangelicalish, we get personal about our own journeys out of Christian Nationalism — and the moments that cracked open our certainty.
We’ll talk about:
⚡ Why some people stay trapped in toxic systems while others break free
⚡ The emotional, spiritual, and political cost of questioning
⚡ How small acts of curiosity can unravel decades of indoctrination
⚡ What it means to walk in Sacred Rebellion after faith deconstruction
We know how disorienting it can be to realize the faith you inherited was more about power than love. We’ve been there. And we’re here to remind you:
You’re not alone. You’re not crazy. And thinking is not a sin.
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Check out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective
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Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site
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