Family Therapy Express

By Kathryn De Bruin and Ronda Evans

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Number 1: E8. Fostering Empathy in Children and Pre-Teens with Dr. Yamilka Urquiza
Welcome back for the next adventure of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans. Today’s guest is Dr. Yamilka Urquiza and she will speak about her research into fostering empathy in kids. All Aboard ! 1:41 Dr. Urquiza tells us about her upbringing in Cuba in a multi-generational households. 10:50 Her research findings included a reciprocity of caregiving between the generations. 13:00 Other findings included: for those now grown adults who had been a helper-caregiver as kids, they now had a positive attitude toward caregiving; also, increased empathy. 16:30 Dr. Urquiza shares her childhood experience of caregiving for her great grandpa in Cuba. 18:14 Through caregiving role/experiences, kids learn to think about others and the experiences of others and thus they grow their perspective-taking skill and empathy development. 19:48 The research participants who described having their own empathy and consideration of others expanded through the caregiving role/experience. 20:24 Kathryn describes the multi-generational context of her own kids are being raised in and how she helps them grow empathy and perspective-taking through conversations with them. 23:49 Kathryn expands their multi-perspective context to immigrant families. 25:10 Ronda describes her sadness about her kid being raised physically separated from his grandparents, and thus this opportunity for exposure to multiple perspectives is more limited. 27:09 Kathryn describes how attachment can be developed across time and space. 31:01. Dr. Yamilka describes how her son now, without prompting, goes to the nearby senior facility to pay saxophone for the elderly. 33:44 Dr. Yamilka describes her joy in finding this positive benefit of fostering empathy from caregiving when previous research had found negative impact and stigma. Thank you for listening! Kathryn is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists, and AAMFT Approved Supervisors. You can follow Kathryn de Bruin Facebook YouTube IG Yelp Google + Twitter Website You can follow Ronda Evans Facebook Facebook IG LinkedIn Website You can follow Dr. Yamilka Urquiza Email: [email protected] Tel: (619) 786-0052 Website: www.halcyonfh.com
April 23, 202437min
Number 2: E7. A Journey into Practicing EFFT with Allie Zangari, LMHC, LMFT
Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Allie Zangari, LMHC, LMFT from Florida. Allie shares about her journey into EFFT. All Aboard ! 1:05 Allie tells us how she applied EFT for couples to EFT for families. 3:00 Allie and Kathryn talk about how the flexibility in the EFFT session structure is helpful and at times can bring on overwhelm for the EFFT therapist. They begin to explore the duality of the in inherent EFFT map and structure with the freedom that EFFT offers. 8:00 Allie shares where she can get stuck: in helping parents become accessible, and identifying and accessing parental intent. 10:45 Kathryn validates Allie that when "mining for parental intent" is a struggle, one intervention we do have is to make that explicit in an empathic way, and this piece of work for parental intent may be done in individual sessions. 19:15. Allie and Kathryn discuss the importance of being transparent about emotional safety with a teen or adult child is critical in helping the teen or adult child in adjusting their expectations. 24:55. Allie explores how parents can continue to have influence on their children as they grow up be embracing two goals. 27:00. Kathryn describes the importance of parents reflecting on how they are perceived by others when the parent is in their protective strategy. 27:35 Ronda tells a story from her life about when her child reflected back to her about her protective strategy. 33:07 Kathryn tells a story from her life about when her protective strategy was reflected back to her. 36:10 Allie empathizes that secure attachment comes from the process of rupture and repair. All parents (and people) will have reactive moments and it is in the repair that holds so much attachment value. 37:10 Kathryn describes the depth and breadth of what can be included in a repair conversation such "what advice do you have for me as a parent? What could I be working on?" 38:09 We explore the complexity that an EFFT therapist needs to respond to when a reactive moment occurs in session in stage 1. We describe how we can keep (or regain :-) our emotional balance in these reactive moments by narrating the structure and safety priorities outloud. Thank you for listening! Kathryn is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists, and AAMFT Approved Supervisors. You can follow Kathryn de Bruin Facebook YouTube IG Yelp Google + Twitter Website You can follow Ronda Evans Facebook Facebook IG LinkedIn Website You can follow Allie Zangari Email: [email protected] Website: zangaricounseling.com
April 09, 202446min
Number 3: E6. High Conflict Divorce Cases: Setting Up a Family Systems Perspective with Berenice Leon-Fonseca
Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans. Listen along today as our guest Berenice Leon-Fonseca from San Diego, California shares her experience in working with families going through high conflict divorce cases using a family systems perspective. Our conversation focuses on the process in the initial stage of assessment and alliance building. All Aboard ! 1:32 Berenice tells us the path she took to get to this destination. 5:19 Parental buy-in starts with a therapist who believes that the co-parenting relationship needs to be the focus. 6:14 Building a co-parenting relationship starts with the intake call. 7:20 The miracle question in the intake call 11:50 In the intake call, building alliance in these families means emphasizing to the parents that they have a voice with you as the family therapist 16:04 The first session is a parent-only session 20:00 To guide the treatment plan, Berenice will follow a court order including how much to involve a parent or whether or not to reach out to a parent 23:00 Getting access to the family system will be slower and the conceptualization will be slower, but it will get the family farther and faster. 23:50 Berenice tells us about a real life experience in which slowing down and leaning in to a parents’ experience can reveal so much about a family’s struggle including the negative cycle 32:35 Berenice talks about how therapists can equip themselves including facing our own fears and getting support and hope from leaning on others. Thank you for listening! Kathryn is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists, and AAMFT Approved Supervisors. You can follow Kathryn de Bruin Facebook YouTube IG Yelp Google + Twitter Website You can follow Ronda Evans Facebook Facebook IG LinkedIn Website You can follow Berenice Email: [email protected] Phone: 619-361-1168 Address: 3511 Camino del Rio, S, Ste. 500 San Diego, CA 92108 Website: heartandhometherapy.com
March 26, 202436min
Number 4: E5. Facing ADHD on the Home and Work Front with Kat Austin
Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. This episode’s adventure takes us to the diverse experience of neurodivergence. Our guest today is Kat Austin, LPC, LAC, LMFT from Boulder, Colorado, USA. All Aboard ! 2:40 Kat opens with the vulnerability that it is to be a parent, and that parental shame gets evoked. 4:14 Kat describes the anecdote for shame. 7:15 How shame can show up in a neurotypical parent and a neurodiverse parent. 9:58 Exploring the loss, the discovery of differences in brains, and psychoeducation and how making the implicit explicit for the whole family system (parents, siblings, grandparents, and more) can be helpful and organizing. 11:58 The family is learning together in real-time. Help the family adopt the reframe of discovery and experimentation 13:37 Families are getting stuck around difficulty with emotional regulation. Parents need to have their own strong emotional regulation skills. The goal is for the “most responsivity” to stay online. 14:46 Parents can get blocked by grief. 15:11 Families can struggle around organizational and structural needs such as sequencing, hyperfocus and time blindness. 19:00 Recommendations, resources and referrals for families. 22:50 How can we help families when they don’t know or recognize that neurodivergence is showing up in the family? 28:15 Kat discusses the philosophical question of labeling or diagnosing, or not. 29:40 Being diagnosed or treated for ADHD can lower risk of depression, anxiety, and substance use and can improve self-identity and self-worth. 32:20 Advocate for your family, especially in the school system. Thank you for listening! Kathryn is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists, and AAMFT Approved Supervisors. You can follow Kathryn de Bruin Facebook YouTube IG Yelp Google + Twitter Website You can follow Ronda Evans Facebook Facebook IG LinkedIn Website You can follow Kat Austin Website Facebook
March 12, 202440min
Number 5: E4. The Changing Family Landscape in Egypt with Eman Onsy
Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Join us for a conversation about the changes in families and family therapy in Egypt with our guest Eman Onsy. She is the current director and co-founder of the Egypt Emotionally Focused Therapy Community and is a Certified EFT therapist. All Aboard ! 2:15 ICEEFT will formally introduce EFFT to Egypt in January 2024. Our own Kathryn de Bruin will provide this training! 3:59 EFFT is culturally appropriate for Egyptian families. 8:15 Eman reframes parental buy-in to changes in stigma about therapy, and to improved accessibility to trained helping professionals 15:52 How has the parenting landscape changed in Egypt 18:28 “Raise your kids not for your generation, but for the coming generations” - an Islamic quote 20:12 Ronda and Kathryn summarize Eman’s perspective of how Egyptian counselors are helping families make these shifts: by tapping into the built-in magic of attachment and that every parent wants to feel like a successful parent Thank you for listening! Kathryn is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, Certified EFT Supervisors and and AAMFT Approved Supervisors. Thank you for listening! You can follow Kathryn Facebook, YouTube, IG, Yelp, Google +, Twitter, Website You can follow Ronda Facebook Facebook IG LinkedIn Website You can follow Eman Facebook LinkedIn
February 27, 202435min