Season 3, Episode 10: In this episode of No Cap, Jack Stone and Alex Gornik talk with Jon Siegel—Partner and CIO at RailField—about building through one of the toughest market cycles, what went wrong after early success, and why staying active matters more than ever.
They also get into the private credit boom, the myth of distress deals, and where real opportunities still exist.
TOPICS
00:09 – Opening and Jon’s Background
04:22 – Starting RailField with $50M of Institutional Capital
06:03 – Early Deals and Gaining Credibility
10:18 – The Rise of Preferred Equity and Private Credit
14:15 – Why Distress Hasn’t Hit and What Happens Next
20:00 – Market Timing, Cycles, and Staying in the Game
24:08 – Vintage Deals, Underwriting, and What Still Works
27:00 – Portfolio Strategy and Working with Institutional Capital
32:58 – Long-Term Bullishness on Multifamily
36:41 – Final Thoughts and Outlook for 2025
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Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
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