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Kat and Phoebe discuss sexually adventurous podcasting, unwanted heirloom dining sets, the phenomenon of "divorce rings," the latest viral Cut essay about age gap relationships, and what to do when your foyer is too narrow to hold your collection of body parts in jars.
LINKS:
Kat and Phoebe on BARpod
Twitter: Won’t someone think of the boomers’ furniture?
I Inherited a Nazi Helmet From My Husband. What Should I Do With It? - The New York Times
Divorce Rings Are Having a Moment Thanks to Emily Ratajkowski - The New York Times
Age Gap Relationships: The Case for Marrying an Older Man
Kat and Phoebe discuss the moral quandary of missing royalty.
Links:
Kate announces her cancer diagnosis:
https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1771235267837321694
Everyone should be ashamed over Princess Kate but me | Ben Sixsmith | The Critic Magazine
Opinion | The Real Royal Scandal Is on Us - The New York Times
-“I will NOT be scolded into feeling …
Kat and Phoebe discuss breast aesthetics, 90s nostalgia, and whether we're all taking too many drugs.
Links:
Are We Sunsetting Ass and Entering a Golden Age of Boobs?
Sydney Sweeney has brought boobs back - The Spectator World
Katherine Dee: “I think benzos and SSRIs are overprescribed for the same reason antibiotics and birth control are. Pharmaceuticals are a lucrative industry and being sick is a lifestyle brand.”
Meghan Murphy: “Popping pills won't actually address your feelings of depression or anxiety. Go outside, get some exercise, interact with humans or nature.”
Are You Asexual Or On Antidepressants? - by Freya India
Abigal Shrier on Bad Therapy: Honestly with Bari Weiss: Why the Kids Aren't Alright on Apple Podcasts
Kat on drugs:
Why Ozempic is cheating - UnHerd
Women are pawns in the contraception war - UnHerd
All in Her Head is in bookstores now: https://www.amazon.com/All-Her-Head-Medicine-Matters-ebook/
Mary Harrington’s pill musings
https://twitter.com/Heritage/status/1662534135762624520
Kat and Phoebe talk about the sandwich anecdote that melted the internet, how they got jobs in journalism, and the one-way feud between two memoirists.
Links:
The origins of Sandwichgate: I Was a Heretic at The New York Times - The Atlantic
Phoebe on sandwich discourse:
Kat on the battling memoirists: https://unherd.com/2024/02/polyamory-is-a-luxury-belief/
Kat and Phoebe discuss a fun philosophical question about desire, a fine literary essay about not getting divorced, and the sacred gossip machine known as the whisper network.
Is it better to desire or be desired? Many journalists, etc weigh in: The Desire Question|Dirt
Emily Gould decompensates, turns decompensation into literature.
Should I Leave My Husband? The Lure of Divorce
The article shall be a book!
https://twitter.com/EmilyGouldNYmag/status/1757840399928844671
Phoebe on Emily Gould’s not-divorcing essay:
Phoebe on Emily Gould’s yes, divorcing crowdfunder that preceded it:
Kat on whisper networks and the women who whisper:
Kat tells a story about accidentally installing a public toilet in her home, while Phoebe uncovers a conspiracy within the New York Times real estate section. Then: Taylor Swift! Is she old? Fat? Mineral? Vegetable? We may never know.
Links:
Nobody will ever know what you’re doing behind this door (just as long as you draw the curtain first)…
The latest evidence that “Living Small” is a deliberate troll:
The Best Part of Tiny Living? The 'Freedom We Have Created for Ourselves.'
Ross Douthat: Taylor Swift, Donald Trump and the Right’s Abnormality Problem
Taylor Swift, poster child for obesity?
Not-an-incel-gate, or Phoebe gets Mad Online
Taylor Swift And The Gray Area Of Disordered EatingKat observes that millennials, and Swift is one, are old now: Millennials are rebranding the menopause - UnHerd
Kat and Phoebe discuss the cringiest response to Barbie's semi-snub at the Oscars, one lady's viral tweetstorm about the scourge of Zionists in the literary world, and the multifarious polyamorous discourse du jour.
Links:
We've had Kenough of this sort of thing:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1750185844219015517
Dan Savage doesn’t want to hear f…
Kat and Phoebe discuss the big gay intrigue over Taylor Swift, the contemporary contours of Mean Girl World, and the missing Jews of Only Murders in the Building.
Links:
Kat talks awards season and royal drama on Piers Morgan: Oscars may experience a ‘vibe shift’ with actors avoiding politics and virtue-signalling | Sky News Australia
The Gaylor Manifesto: Opinion | Look What We Made Taylor Swift Do - The New York Times
Kat's take: Why Taylor Swift can't deny being gay - UnHerd
Phoebe's take:
Kat on Mean Girls: https://unherd.com/2024/01/we-are-all-mean-girls-now/
Phoebe on the de-Jewification of the televised Upper West Side A Jewish neighbourhood without Jews: Phoebe Maltz Bovy considers 'Only Murders in the Building'
Kat and Phoebe discuss a provocative underwear ad, a post-wall woman, and the stolen valor of a new book about fatphobia.
Links:
Mr. Underpants
https://twitter.com/CalvinKlein/status/1742901431185584252
Soooo… what is that building back there? Does anyone know?
Phoebe on Mr. Underpants Senior:
Kat's review of Kate Manne’s Unshrinking (and why is Manne using “we” to describe the people who don’t fit in airplane seats?) : https://unherd.com/2024/01/fat-positivity-is-a-fantasy/
In an extra-long, very special episode, Kat and Phoebe finish out the year with a retrospective on the death (or was it?) of journalism, a discussion of Soup Discourse, and a debate on the foolishness (or is it?) of tradwives.
Links:
James Bennett's essay: When the New York Times lost its way
Phoebe on the death of swashbuckling:
Kat on tradwives…: The Paradoxical Freedom of Tradwife Tiktok
…and the cost of soup.
The origins of “Rosemary’s Bibi” in a single image:
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