Feminine Chaos

Kat and Phoebe discuss post-woke fashion, ideological trends, a sexy Oscar-winning movie, and a minor vandalism incident in Kat's front yard (stay tuned to minute 39 for the thrilling live-on-podcast denouement!)

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The license plate holder:

Amy Odell: Fashion Has Given Up on Being Woke, and That’s OK

Andrew Sullivan: We All Live on Campus Now

Kat on post-politics actors and Anora

Phoebe on the 2010s:

Kat and Phoebe discuss the tragic and strange death of Gene Hackman (with latest news in links), the controversy surrounding Trump's passport policies, and the Nanette of divorce memoirs.

Links:

Gene Hackman steals Young Frankenstein:

Chestfeeding is out and boobs are in on the latest episode of Feminine Chaos, as Kat and Phoebe discuss the renaissance of tits, the female gaze, and a new round of "whither wokeness" discourse.

Kat on knockers: The age of the prude is over

The “man” ad for Kamala:

Kat and Phoebe discuss Jewish-coded skiing incidents, ozempic divorces, men losing babies, and the loneliness of the immortal optimizer.

LINKS:

How Weight-Loss Drugs Can Upend a Marriage

The world's most optimized man:

Kat and Phoebe discuss $800 sweaters for feminism, Instagram deep-diving, and why angry MAGA men are circulating pictures of a certain podcaster’s hindquarters on twitter. (Early access for premium subscribers!)

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Kat on the horny beer calendar:

The picture that made one Conservative Dad lose his mind:

Cartoons Hate Her on MAGA babes:

Phoebe vs fancy sweaters:

Kat and Phoebe discuss an allegedly terrible new sex trend all the youths are into, the bizarro aesthetics of the MAGA babe beer calendar, strange bedfellows in the culture wars, and how asking questions became a bad thing.

LINKS:

Cookie jarring, from Thought Catalog, which still exists: https://thoughtcatalog.com/molly-burford/2025/01/theres-a-new-dating…

Kat and Phoebe discuss Taffy Brodesser-Akner's Long Island Compromise, fictional nose jobs, sexual reciprocity, and Trump's executive order to un-bend genders everywhere.

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Phoebe reviews Long Island Compromise:

The safety question: Jewish existential dilemmas in Taffy Brodesser-Akner's hilarious 'Long Island Compromise'

Kat’s internet-breaking newslet…

Because the Neil Gaiman discourse is a gift that keeps on giving podcast content, Kat and Phoebe return to discuss the yucking of yums, the sex lives of old ladies, and whether women should be allowed to have their own bank accounts.

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Once again, the Gaiman exposé

There Is No Safe Word

Ross Douthat on the constraints of the BDSM technical foul:

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Kat and Phoebe discuss the MeToo-ing of Neil Gaiman (and certain questions about the reporting thereof.) Also: BDSM, Babygirl, and the non-binary comedy of Ilana Glazer.

Links:

The expose of Neil "Call Me Master" Gaiman

Kat's first-on-the-scene dispatch from the YA Twitter Wars: https://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-toxic-drama-of-ya-twitter.html

Archived ver…

Kat and Phoebe discuss the surprise comeback of home cooking discourse, the anatomy of the PR war between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, and how a dying political movement spawned the world's weirdest list of thought criminals.

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Home cooking-gate:

Kat on the Baldoni vs Lively mess:

Phoebe on trans rights as omnicause

The BARpod episode on Transgender Map: