In The Road Back To You, Episode #3, Ian and Suzanne interview pastor and New York Times bestselling author Nadia Bolz-Weber. Nadia talks about life as an Enneagram 8 (The Challenger), and explores the weight of responsibility that comes with having a voice that carries weight. Nadia also discusses the importance of being emotionally present, and how being an Enneagram 8 impacts her life as a pastor. Yikes, it get's real. After you listen to this episode you'll want to check out Nadia's books: Pastrix and Accidental Saints and Nadia's website at here.