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In this episode of the Frankie & Jess Podcast, we sit down with Curtis Morley—an “emotionologist,” bestselling author, and founder of the Counterfeit Emotions framework.
He shares a raw truth: when he was crushed by pain, he discovered something wild—joy and love can coexist with pain.
Curtis breaks down how many of the emotions we’ve accepted as normal—like “nice,” “shame,” or “misery”—are actually counterfeit, and how identifying the authentic version unlocks freedom, connection, and meaning.
Whether you’re navigating relationships, grief, leadership, or your own inner world, Curtis gives tools to shift from avoidant or destructive patterns into genuine connection and authentic living.
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