Jeff Garmire has numerous FKT's to his name, including the Arizona Trail, Colorado Trail, Wonderland Trail, John Muir Trail, and many more, and he's run the Cocodona 250 five times, where I paced him this year. Jeff's also an author and the host of the Free Outside podcast. We talk about the media circle that was this year's Cocodona 250, as well as some of the challenges of creating content as an athlete.

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