Today Nicole sits down with celebrated journalist Daryn Kagan and her husband, Trent Swanson—though around here, we call him The Miles Husband.

Daryn reflects on the highs of her career as a news anchor and what it felt like when CNN didn’t renew her contract. She shares how she navigated that turning point, what it taught her about financial security, and how she redefined success. Daryn also gives her strategy for creating the role you want and shares a message for anyone still waiting on their dream career, relationship, or family.

Then, Trent breaks down how a little curiosity about credit card points turned into a full-on travel hacking strategy that now has the couple flying around the world in luxury for next to nothing... and how you can, too!

Listen to Daryn’s episode Call Me Friend, and start with the episode where Daryn interviews Nicole

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