In this episode, I sit down with Deborah Yager to explore what's really underneath the behaviors we're trying to change—whether it's alcohol, food, or patterns we just can't seem to break.

We talk about the idea of "alchemy"—not as something mystical, but as the very real process of transforming our hardest experiences into something meaningful.

Deborah shares her personal story of addiction, identity, and transformation, and we explore how tools like neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), curiosity, and nervous system awareness can help us shift not just what we do—but who we believe ourselves to be.

This conversation moves beyond willpower and into something deeper:

👉 the patterns

👉 the language

👉 the identity

👉 and the parts of ourselves we've learned to judge

If you've ever felt stuck in a cycle—or wondered why behavior change can feel so hard—this one will open something up. SHOW NOTES HERE