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Many kids today are struggling to think independently, handle high-pressure moments, and make strategic choices on their own. Terrence McMullen—a Harvard MBA graduate and Dean of Parents at Alpha—is on a mission to fix that. Having spent 15 years teaching advanced business acumen and negotiation to K-12 students, Terrence has built programs alongside Goldman Sachs and partnered with over 20 top independent schools across New York.
In this conversation, Terrence shares how adapting the Harvard Business School case method equips parents to build deep critical thinking, refine real-world communication, and raise adaptable children who know how to analyze complex situations on the fly.
In this episode, we discuss:
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What does it actually take to keep kids healthy, active, and out of the emergency room? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Dr. Viveta Lobo—a Stanford ER physician, professor, Alpha parent, and mother of three—to unpack a practical, preventive approach to childhood health, physical fitness, and nutrition. In this conversation, Dr. Lobo breaks down commonly asked questions in a compilation of essential, doctor-approved best practices for parents.
In this episode, we cover:
Movement as Brain Fuel: How physical activity releases BDNF ("Miracle-Gro for the brain") to improve executive function, memory, and classroom focus.
Strength Training for Kids: Dispelling myths around weightlifting, and why resistance training helps kids—especially those carrying extra weight—build physical competence over humiliation.
Building Child Agency: Why letting kids handle age-appropriate responsibilities (from setting alarms to planning family meals) builds real-world judgment that AI cannot replace.
Practical Family Nutrition: The 80/20 approach to snacks, hitting daily protein targets (~1.5g/kg), and enforcing the "three-bite rule" for picky eaters.
Preventive Healthcare: Moving away from reactive ER visits to establish core lifestyle habits (movement, nutrition, mental health, community) early in life.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 - Meeting Dr. Viveta Lobo
00:56 - Shifting from Reactive ER Care to Preventive Health
03:38 - Relocating to Austin & Choosing Texas Sports Academy
05:00 - Why Physical Activity is "Miracle-Gro" for the Brain (BDNF)
09:33 - Debunking Myths: Strength & Resistance Training for Children
13:17 - Reframing Exercise for Overweight & Non-Athletic Kids
22:52 - Building Agency & Independence in Children at Home
25:07 - Food Formulas: Pantry Management, the 80/20 Rule & Gas Station Treats
30:22 - Child Nutrition: Protein Targets & Complete Amino Acids
39:22 - Overcoming Picky Eaters & The "Three-Bite Rule"
43:38 - Maximizing Growth Potential & Childhood Height
45:53 - Changing the Paradigm: Lifestyle Medicine Over Emergency Rooms
49:26 - Early Warning Signs of Mental Health Struggles in Teens
55:05 - Dr. Lobo’s Personal Journey: Micro-Preemies & Unlocking Limitless Potential
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools
Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school
What actually happens when you leave traditional careers to build an alternative school from scratch? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with fellow alternative school founders Gillian Berard (former public school teacher) and Jenna Baggott (former NICU nurse) to unpack the practical realities of launching Infinity Academy, a project-based microschool on 17 acres in Ontario.
From navigating local zoning laws using yurt classrooms to balancing AI-powered personalized academics with outdoor life skills, it’s a candid, unfiltered look at the practical realities of launching an alternative school today.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro: Meeting the Founders of Infinity Academy
01:29 - Why Reforming Public Education Feels Like "Steering the Titanic"
03:22 - Leaving Nursing & Teaching to Build Something New
06:31 - Infinity Academy’s Vision: Self-Directed & Nature-Based
08:18 - Using AI & Adaptive Tools for Core Academics
12:45 - The Role of the Educator as a "Guide"
14:53 - Addressing Common Misconceptions About Alternative Schools
17:37 - Student Motivation & Real-World Application
19:09 - The Reality of Year 1: Zoning, Funding & Risk
24:09 - Yurt Classrooms & Bypassing Structural Permits
25:30 - Using Social Media to Prove What School Can Be
27:45 - Practical Advice for Launching Your Own Microschool
Connect with Infinity Academy on Instagram: @infinity_education.inc
Learn more about Infinity Academy: www.infinityacademyed.com/
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about all our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools
Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school
Leadership skills in the workplace don't always translate to leadership skills in the home. Often times, the well-intentioned efforts of ambitious parents can lead to surprising consequences for their kids. As it turns out, the secret to raising extraordinary, self-driven kids isn't just pushing harder and chasing optimization...and today's guest is here to unpack just that.
In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Heather Chauvin—former social worker, stage 4 cancer survivor, host of the Emotionally Uncomfortable podcast, and advisor to high-achieving leaders—to talk about how ambitious parents can lead their families without burning out in the process.
We're covering:
Episode Timestamps:
02:42 – Performative Parenting: Trapped in the Comparison Game
05:14 – A Stage 4 Cancer Diagnosis and a Burnout Crisis
07:47 – Energy Management vs. Time Management
09:53 – Why Reactive Living Drains Your Daily Capacity
14:43 – Intentionality vs. Control: Are You Supporting or Micromanaging?
15:43 – The "Time & Energy Audit": Making Invisible Stress Visible
18:44 – The #1 Mistake High-Achieving Parents Make With Their Kids
25:38 – Overparenting and the "Comfort Crisis" in Modern Childhood
27:28 – Why Emotional Regulation Beats Quick Fixes Every Time
31:44 – From "The Doer" to "The Be-er": Reframing Parenting as Quiet Leadership
34:56 – Simple Steps to Buy Back Your Time and Reclaim Vitality
Learn more about Heather Chauvin: www.heatherchauvin.com
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools
Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school
What if one focused conversation each week could help your child identify roadblocks, set meaningful goals, and take ownership of what happens next?
In this episode, MacKenzie speaks with Jackson—an Alpha Guide with a background in sports psychology—about Limitless Meetings: recurring, one-on-one coaching conversations that transform a student's ability to set and stick to goals. Jackson explains how to structure a quick, focused check-in, adapt the conversation to a child’s age and interests, and use motivational interviewing instead of defaulting to lectures or quick solutions.
Parents and educators will leave with a practical framework for helping children articulate what they want, identify what is getting in the way, choose their own next step, and determine exactly how they want to be held accountable.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 – An Introduction to Limitless Meetings
02:58 – Finding the Sweet Spot: Ideal Meeting Lengths for Every Age
05:06 – From Songwriting to Social Skills: Setting Clear, Actionable Goals
06:36 – The Paint-by-Numbers Trick: Keeping Kids Engaged During Deep Conversations
10:48 – Moving from Parent-Led Directives to Student-Owned Agendas
11:56 – The Two Golden Rules: Confidentiality and Tying Goals to Real Life Skills
16:58 – Motivational Interviewing: A Simple Questioning Framework for Parents
24:28 – Positive Reinforcement vs. Negative Punishment
27:28 – The "WTF" Framework
29:21 – How to Use AI to Grade Coaching Conversations
40:43 – The Perfect Closing Question: Establishing Meaningful Accountability
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools
Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school
When Dr. Tasha Arnold came across Alpha's MAP test scores, she was in disbelief. As a lifelong lover of traditional schooling with two decades of experience teaching everywhere from Chicago public schools to top private schools in London and Mumbai, Tasha decided to test the learning model out for herself.
In this episode, MacKenzie and Tasha (who is now the Head of School at Alpha!) dive deep into the massive paradigm shift required to accept AI in the classroom, why technology actually increases human interaction, and why giving kids the space to fail might be the most important thing we can do for their future.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: The Ultimate Skeptic
02:37 - Dr. Tasha’s Global Education Background
05:13 - The New Scarcity: Human Connection vs. Content
07:21 - The Reality of Traditional Classrooms & Lesson Plans
16:44 - Building Life Skills: "UN" Style Town Halls
21:12 - Protecting the Good Teachers (And Filtering the Rest)
25:44 - The "Failure Loop" & Practicing "Support, Not Solve"
30:53 - Building True Confidence Through Competence
34:42 - Data Privacy & Addressing AI Skepticism
38:05 - The Future of AI in Public Schools
41:50 - The Mumbai Experiment: From Skeptic to Believer
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school
Learn more about all of our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools
In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Alpha guide Chris Hays to break down the stock market simulation he uses to make investing, risk, and reward click for students. Using classroom currency, multiple investment options, and fictional market news, Chris turns a complex topic into a 20-minute weekly game that parents and educators can recreate- even if they're new to investing themselves.
The conversation goes beyond investing and explores practical ways to teach kids how to earn, save, spend, and donate. From needs-versus-wants discussions to a student-run claw machine business, this episode is full of approachable ideas for building financial confidence, curiosity, and strong money habits early on.
Episode Timestamps:
01:20 - Caricaturizing Money: "Professor Dinero"
02:19 - Needs vs. Wants Explored
03:32 - Steal the "Alpha" Currency System We Use
07:12 - Exploring the Controversy of Paying Students
09:55 - The Student Stock Market Explained
18:50 - Elevating Ordinary Lemonade Stands: A Case Study
24:11 - Entrepreneurship Anecdotes
29:41 - Alternative Reward Systems
34:30 - The Five Buckets of Financial Literacy
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools
Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school
How do you help a child who says "I'm bad at math," "I can't read," or "That's just not my thing"? In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with Alexis Wilson, growth mindset and performance coach, to discuss how parents and educators can help kids break out of fixed mindsets and build genuine self-confidence (hint: empty affirmations without evidence don't work). Plus, they confront the harsh fact that parents' hidden fears can cause more issues in kids than any lack of natural talent—and how small shifts at home can completely change a child's identity.
Episode Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction: Growth Mindset vs. Fixed Mindset
03:40 - The Science: How Brains Change with Neuroplasticity
05:09 - Spotting a Fixed Mindset: "That's Just Not My Thing"
06:40 - How to Change a Child's Negative Self-Talk
10:37 - Why Confidence Requires Real Evidence & Reps
17:33 - How Kids Unconsciously Pick Up Their Parents' Fears
23:14 - Are You Secretly Sabotaging Your Child's Mindset?
29:08 - The Power of "Yet" & Normalizing Mistakes
33:55 - How Growth Mindset Transforms Family Dynamics at Home
39:24 - "Mom, I'm Not Dumb": A 7th Grader's Identity Shift
42:42 - Step-by-Step: How Parents Can Reframe Limiting Beliefs Today
44:42 - Knowing When to Pivot vs. When to Keep Pushing
Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com
Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools
Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school
How can you tell if your child’s school is thriving or failing? In this episode, former Florida Principal of the Year Christie Ray joins Mackenzie to break down the critical red, yellow, and green flags parents often don't know to look for in their child's school. From invisible administrators and high teacher turnover to rigid policies and unexpected indicators of a toxic culture, Christie's decades of insider insight give parents a practical guide on how to evaluate any school—and, ultimately, relentlessly advocate for their kids.
Episode Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction: Meet Christy Ray (2020 Florida Principal of the Year)
02:59 - The Principal as a CEO: Evaluating Institutional Health
04:48 - Green Flag #1: Visible Leadership & Pickup/Drop-off Presence
07:28 - Green Flag #2: Low Teacher Turnover & "Coaching Up vs. Coaching Out"
08:29 - Addressing Bad Teachers: Unions, Contracts & Administrative Hurdles
13:17 - Professional Development: Does Teacher Training Actually Help?
14:22 - The "Silent Lunch" Controversy: Is It Good for Kids or Just Adults?
17:44 - Identifying Low Support: Bullying, Chaos, and Front Office Vibe
24:16 - How Parents Should Advocate: Being Relentless and Respectful
28:51 - How to Start Off on the Right Foot With Your Principal & Teachers
30:57 - Quick Breakdown: The Biggest School Red Flags to Watch For
31:31 - Gifting 101: Do Principals and Teachers Actually Want Mug Gifts?
When most people hear "Alpha," they think of our flagship campuses—but that’s only a small fraction of what we’ve built.
Across 40+ cities, Alpha has expanded into a diverse ecosystem of specialized academies and accessible models designed to fit different interests, locations, and budgets. Whether parents are looking for elite sports training, hands-on outdoor survival, gifted and talented programs, or affordable local options, there’s a model built for them.
In this episode, MacKenzie breaks down all current Alpha school models, explaining how each operates, who they are built for, and how we’re bringing personalized learning to families everywhere.
02:15 - NextGen Academy: Gaming & Esports
Learn more at www.nextgenacademy.school
05:30 - Waypoint Academy: Outdoor Survival & Wilderness Skills
Learn more at www.waypointacademy.school
08:45 - Texas Sports Academy: Single and Multi-Sport Specialty Academies
Learn more at www.sportsacademy.school
Listen to other episodes about Texas Sports Academy: Episodes #309, #310, and #311
11:50 - Alpha World School: High School Study Abroad in Kenya & Ecuador
Learn more at www.world.alpha.school
14:20 - Founders School: Entrepreneurship & Business Building
Learn more at www.founders.school
17:00 - GT School: Gifted & Talented School
Learn more at www.gt.school
19:40 - Montessorium: Modernized, Tech-Enabled Montessori
Learn more at www.montessorium.school
Listen to other episodes about Montessorium: Episode #344
22:15 - Nova Academy: Affordable Access to Our Model
Learn more at www.novaacademy.school
25:30 - Alpha Schools: Our Flagship School, Now Expanded
Learn more at www.alpha.school
From the publisher's feed
The Future of Education Podcast is the place to find out what's happening in schools. Our guests are wide and varied, from educators, entrepreneurs, athletes, celebrities, influencers and most…
Our host, MacKenzie Price, is the Co-Founder of 2hr Learning (2hourlearning.com) and some of the top-performing schools in the country. 2 Hour Learning is a groundbreaking school model that is reshaping the landscape of K-12 education. It's powered by AI technology, enabling schools to provide personalized curriculum to students. Our K-12 schools perform in the top 2% nationwide by leveraging this personalize model to help students love school, learn twice as much, and build life skills. MacKenzie is at the forefront of educational transformation, striving for a balanced and enriching learning experience for every child. She graduated with a BA in Psychology from Stanford University and resides in Austin, Texas, with her husband and two daughters.
The Future of Education podcast is produced by 7 Lyons Media (7LyonsMedia.com). Please send press inquiries to [email protected].

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