This week, Em and Alex chat to Nadine Baggott, beauty expert, writer and presenter, who happens to have recently turned 60. She gives the girls an insight into ageism and her thoughts on how the beauty industry needs to change in order to be fully inclusive. Why are ageing men seen as attractive and ageing women considered unsightly? Why should you have older friends in your life?

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Produced & edited by Daisy Grant

Music by Alex Andrew

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