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Today we’re talking mixed-politics marriages, the true villain of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, when I feel “the spirit” most, and whether I’ve ever considered exploring with women 👀—among plenty of other things. My answers got a little more unfiltered than usual because, well, you know. 🍃
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John Dehlin, a fixture of the post-Mormon community and founder of Mormon Stories, joins me to chat about life beyond Mormonism. We cover his favorite movies, books, places, parenting philosophy, and what he feels people most often misunderstand about him. Then—surprise, surprise—we break the no M-word rule and talk a little ex-Mormon podcasting shop. We couldn’t help ourselves.
Mormon Stories
Hayley’s episode on Mormon Stories
Lucy Hutchin's Patreon
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For my 30th birthday, I asked anyone and everyone over 30 what they wish they’d known when they hit this milestone—and wow, did they deliver. We’re covering everything from skincare to motherhood to spirituality, and reading through all this advice truly felt like the best birthday gift I could’ve asked for. Whether you’re 25, 35, or just curious what’s coming next, I hope you find something in here to laugh at, reflect on, or look forward to.
REFERENCES
You Are Here- Thich Nhat Hanh
Reddit episode
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We’re talking about the one thing none of us can avoid—but most of us were never taught how to really face: death. I’m joined by Camille Miskin, LCSW, licensed grief counselor and death doula, to unpack what death, grief, and dying look like after religion. From Mormon heaven to mortality mindset shifts, we’re getting into it all.
Camille’s practice Channeling Expansion
Camille on Instagram
The video of me looking like my dad
Death doula directories:
https://www.nedalliance.org/doula_directory_n_through_z.html
https://goingwithgrace.com/death-doula-directory/
Fowler’s Stages of Faith
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As someone who spends a lot of time dissecting Mormon culture and doctrine—especially its impact on millennial and Gen Z women in Utah—Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is basically my Super Bowl. Today we’re diving into all things season 2: the claim that these women are “smashing the patriarchy,” Jen and Zac’s faith crisis, Taylor’s swinger shame spiral, Layla’s s-e-x party, the pregnancy roulette, and so much more. Grab your Swig and let’s get into it.
REFERENCES
Jenna Jarvis' Girlscamp episode on YouTube
Jenna Jarvis' Girlscamp episode on Apple podcasts
Jessi Ngatikaura's episode on YouTube
Jessi Ngatikaura's episode on Apple podcasts
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I’m opening up today about the not-so-linear path of healing—what I’ve tried, what’s helped, and what’s still a big ol’ work in progress. From talk therapy to ketamine, psilocybin, and SSRIs, I’ve dabbled in a little bit of everything… and I’ve got thoughts. I’m also sharing a recent EMDR breakthrough that cracked something open for me—one that’s got me (begrudgingly?) learning how to actually ~love myself~. If you’re in the thick of it too, or just curious what this kind of work looks like, consider this your peek into the messy middle.
Ketamine therapy deep-dive episode
(Thorn Brothers) Kyle Thorn & Tucker Thorn
You Are Here by Thich Nhat Hanh
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If you know me, you know I love a good evening scroll on Reddit. In this episode, I’ve rounded up some of the most fascinating threads from my favorite subreddits—r/todayilearned, r/AITAH, r/unresolvedmysteries, and (of course) r/exmormon. We’re covering everything from the Japanese government to undercover Mormons to peanut allergies on a plane. This episode’s got range. I’m also sharing my own not-so-great run-in with a certain corner of Reddit—let’s just say I’m nursing a bit of a vulnerability hangover.
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REFERENCES:
Tom Sizemore/Saving Private Ryan
Mel Blanc/Bugs Bunny
Woman trapped in elevator
Peanut allergies
Japanese Prime Ministers
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I’ve had some LDS garment-related rage simmering lately—especially with the new tank top design and the attempt to rewrite history about what garments are actually for. So today, we’re doing a quick rundown of how garments have evolved, then diving into the recent wave of pro-garment content popping up online. And to close it out, I’m reading some thoughts and feelings about the garment stuff from the Patreon crew 🫶🏻
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We’re keeping it light this week with an episode full of funny, weird, and very Mormon mission stories. Think: a raw chicken casserole for lunch, an Elder who got an unexpected nude surprise, and a Southern Baptist vs. Mormon missionary face-off that felt more WWE than WWJD. Come for the chaos, stay for the laughs!
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This week I’m joined by Samantha Dalton—therapist, co-host of the Nuance Needed podcast, and the voice behind @sam.the.therapistt on Instagram. Our conversation centers loosely on community and friendship after leaving high-demand religion, but we cover a lot of ground: the misuse of therapy-speak (including how “trauma dumping” gets weaponized), emotional immaturity among women raised in sheltered religious environments like Mormonism, and even a little analysis of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. It’s one of those episodes that left me thinking long after we stopped recording.
REFERENCES
Nuance Needed episode Not Everything is “Trauma Dumping”
Nuance Needed episode You Do Owe People Things: The Myth of Zero Obligations
Samantha Dalton on IG @sam.the.therapistt
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