Bobby Julich and Jens Voigt catch up with Team Jumbo Visma coach Grischa Niermann who tells cycling's odd couple about his journey from the peloton to leading some of the biggest names in the sport. Grischa reveals the inside scoop of the team's difficult financial journey from years as Blanco and Garmin... before sealing a deal to secure their longterm future in the peloton.

Bobby and Jens is a Velonews production in association with Shocked Giraffe. It was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.