Groundwork

Groundwork

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Groundwork episodes

  • Episode 53 - The Case for Fewer, Deeper Tech Partnerships

    Ron Piovesan is back on Groundwork, this time to share why Okta is going deep with fewer partners instead of going wide. In this episode, Ron unpacks the strategic shift from managing a broad ecosystem to focusing on a small number of high-impact partnerships. He shares how his team aligns long-term product roadmaps and go-to-market strategies with just six partners, while still supporting a vibrant integration ecosystem.


    Our favorite takeaways:


    - Focusing on fewer, high-impact partners enables deeper collaboration and better returns

    - Empathy is essential for navigating internal alignment and sustaining long-term partnerships

    - Scalable ecosystems require delightful, self-serve partner experiences

    - Developer relations and partnerships are converging, and companies need to adapt

    - Data-driven signals from sales and product can reveal the next strategic partner


    Timestamps:


    03:01 - Why Okta Is Prioritizing Fewer Partners

    06:28 - The Business Case for Going Deep

    10:03 - The Risk of Missing the Next Big Partner

    12:17 - Managing a Massive Integration Ecosystem

    14:43 - What Makes a “Delightful” Partner Experience

    17:05 - Developer Relations vs. Partnerships

    19:06 - How Small Companies Can Get on Okta’s Radar

    25:10 - Using Data to Identify Emerging Partners

    27:53 - Ron’s Ideal Internal AI Tool

    30:49 - Why Customers Are the Best Advocates

    33:01 - Avoiding the Novelty Trap

    35:02 - How Empathy Drives Internal Alignment


    #Partnerships #EcosystemStrategy #TechPartnerships #DeveloperRelations #SaaSGrowth #B2BMarketing #PartnerPrograms #IntegrationStrategy #GoToMarket #ChannelPartners #StrategicAlliances


    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 2,000+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual and in-person events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.

    39 min
  • Episode 52 - Roman Lobas of Fuelfinance

    In this episode, Roman Lobas, Head of Partnerships at Fuelfinance, joins Tai Rattigan to explore the dynamics of venture partnerships. Roman breaks down how to build trust with VCs, align incentives, and craft a value proposition that gets remembered. Drawing from his experience at Deel, Roman shares actionable strategies for scaling partnerships and fostering long-term relationships with investors.

    Our favorite takeaways:
    - Building trust with venture capitalists
    - Aligning incentives with VC goals
    - Simplifying your value proposition for clarity and impact
    - Leveraging success stories to strengthen relationships
    - Creating partnerships with non-investor VCs
    Timestamps:
    2:30 Lessons from Katalista Ventures
    5:34 How corporate innovation teams connect with startups
    9:32 Aligning your product with VC portfolio needs
    15:59 Turning investors into advocates
    19:12 Simplifying your pitch for VCs
    25:41 Building trust and long-term relationships
    33:23 Partnering with non-investor VCs
    38:34 Insights from Roman’s new role at Fuelfinance
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,850+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    #VenturePartnerships #PartnershipStrategy #BuildingTrust #VCInsights #ScalingStartups #StartupEcosystem #CorporateInnovation #PartnershipLeaders #VentureCapital #BusinessGrowth
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnershipleaders/
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/groundwork/id1743254291
    Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/groundwork-by-pl

    44 min
  • Episode 51 - Andrey Lipattsev of Google

    In this episode, Andrey Lipattsev, from Google's Chrome Privacy Partnerships team, shares his journey from trust and safety roles to leading product partnerships at Google. He discusses the Privacy Sandbox initiative, which aims to update outdated technologies and enhance user privacy.

    Here are some of our favorite takeaways:
    - Overview of the Privacy Sandbox initiative
    - Importance of ecosystem connectivity and communication
    - Role of developer relations in partnerships
    - Strategies for building internal advocacy
    - Collaboration with developer relations teams
    Timestamps:
    10:02 Chrome Privacy Sandbox
    17:20 Partnering with Google
    24:01 Open Web and Ecosystem Responsibility
    31:25 Empowering Developer Advocates
    39:17 Role of Developer Relations
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,850+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    #ProductPartnerships #PrivacySandbox #Ecosystem #DeveloperRelations #Google #Innovation #TechLeadership
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnershipleaders/
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/groundwork/id1743254291
    Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/groundwork-by-pl

    45 min
  • Episode 50 - Jen Waltz of Kron Technologies

    In this episode, Jen Waltz, Founding VP of Global Alternate Channel Sales at Kron Technologies, shares her extensive experience in business development, focusing on digital transformation, strategic partnerships, and cybersecurity.

    Here are some key highlights of our conversation:
    - The evolution and importance of OEM partnerships in SaaS and software.
    - AI's impact on OEM manufacturing and predictive analytics.
    - Strategies for managing channel conflict and partner ecosystems.
    - The significant role of cybersecurity in partner-driven revenue generation.
    - Importance of clear joint value propositions in partnerships.
    - Tips for effective partner engagement and lead generation.
    Timestamps:
    2:05 OEM Partnerships
    7:05 AI and OEMs
    11:45 Managing Channel Conflict
    18:03 Partner Ecosystem Management
    25:17 Channel Leaders and Lead Generation
    27:58 Cybersecurity Market
    34:19 Cybersecurity Partnerships
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,850+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    #businessdevelopment #cybersecurity #oem #partnerships #ai #saas #software #channelsales #digitaltransformation #partnerships
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnershipleaders/
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/groundwork/id1743254291
    Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/groundwork-by-pl

    42 min
  • Episode 49 - Daisy Urfer of Algolia

    In this episode, Daisy shares her unconventional journey from a background in child development to becoming a leader in cloud partnerships. She offers insights into balancing internal and external partnership efforts and the strategic role of SI partners in cloud ecosystems.

    Here are some key highlights of our conversation:
    - The role of transferable skills in career transitions.
    - Complexities and strategies in managing cloud partnerships.
    - Importance of participating in cloud provider programs.
    - Best practices for maintaining marketplace listings.
    - Balancing internal collaboration with external partnership efforts.
    - Strategic involvement of SI partners in cloud ecosystems.
    Timestamps:
    2:49 Building Partnerships in the Tech Ecosystem
    10:01 Belief in the Product as a Key to Success
    11:39 Daisy's Award-Winning Leadership
    13:17 The Complexity of Cloud Partnerships
    15:28 Measuring Success in Cloud Marketplaces
    16:54 Crowdstrike's Billion-Dollar Achievement
    18:29 Optimizing Cloud Marketplace Listings
    21:13 Collaborative Product Marketing in Cloud Marketplaces
    31:49 Navigating Product Team Buy-In for Cloud Partnerships
    36:52 Importance of Discovery in Sales
    40:47 Balancing Internal and External Work in Partnerships
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,850+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    #Partnerships #CloudEcosystems #CareerTransition #TechLeadership #MarketplaceStrategy #SalesEnablement #CloudPartnerships #SIPartners #TechInnovation #ProfessionalGrowth
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnershipleaders
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/groundwork/id1743254291
    Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/groundwork-by-pl

    48 min
  • Episode 48 - Rachel Fefer of Bloomreach

    In this episode, Rachel Fefer shares her extensive experience in partnerships and channel sales. She shares insights from her journey in notable companies like Bloomreach and Magento, the transition to partner-led services, the importance of executive buy-in, and the unique dynamics of the Israeli tech ecosystem.

    Key takeaways include:
    - Strategies for ensuring partner quality and client satisfaction.
    - Navigating acquisitions and the impact on company culture and operations.
    - The role of partnerships in driving operational efficiency and growth in competitive markets.
    Timestamps
    6:56 Business Strategy at Bloomreach
    11:30 Partner Services Compensation Change
    13:52 Challenges with Partner Contracting
    17:27 Importance of Internal Services for Partner Training
    19:33 Partner Management at Bloomreach
    25:28 Investment in Partner Success
    27:07 Business Partnerships in Tech Companies
    36:48 Operational Efficiency Wave
    38:34 Navigating Acquisitions
    40:38 Transitioning from Small to Large Organizations
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,850+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnership-leaders
    Apple Podcasts: https://link.partnershipleaders.com/gw-applepodcasts
    Spotify: https://link.partnershipleaders.com/gw-spotify
    #partnerships #channelsales #ecommerce #bloomreach #magento #crossbeam

    44 min
  • Episode 47 - Jennifer Rhima of Apollo.io

    In this episode, Jennifer Rhima, Director of Partnerships at Apollo.io, discusses her journey in building successful partnerships across the globe. From her early days as a congressional intern to leading partnerships in the Middle East and North Africa, Jennifer shares insights on adapting to diverse business cultures, proving the value of partnerships, and scaling teams from scratch.

    She and Tai cover the following:
    - Sales experience as the foundation to become a good partnerships manager
    - Leveraging in-person connections to build effective partnerships in international markets.
    - The importance of collaboration between partnerships and revenue operation teams to enhance strategic impact.
    - How to scale programs effectively across industries like tourism boards and financial institutions
    4:59 Living and Working in the Middle East
    8:03 Partnerships in Dubai
    16:21 Sizing Partnership Opportunities in the MENA Region
    18:24 Building Partnerships from Scratch
    23:48 Structuring Team Roles
    25:06 Scaling Team Capacity
    26:30 Apollo's Sales Engagement Tool
    29:36 Partner Programs at Apollo
    32:22 Affiliate Personas for Apollo
    37:01 Startup Ecosystem Program Discounts
    40:02 Technology Partnerships and Integrations
    47:32 Partner Ops Support
    50:35 Agency Partnerships
    52:46 Unique Challenges of Partnering with Agencies
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,850+ members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnership-leaders
    Apple Podcasts: https://link.partnershipleaders.com/gw-applepodcasts
    Spotify: https://link.partnershipleaders.com/gw-spotify
    #partnerships #businessgrowth #startups #sales #apollo

    55 min
  • Episode 46 - Kyle Schroeder of Movable Ink

    In this episode, Kyle shares his career journey in partnerships from an intern at ExactTarget to his current role. We covered the importance of structured partnerships, the transition from ExactTarget to Salesforce, and the strategic role of partnerships at Movable Ink. (movableink.com) Kyle explains how his team supports sales regions, measures success through partner involvement in revenue, and the significance of building long-term relationships.

    Here are our favorite takeaways:
    - Strategies for securing resources and aligning partnership goals with company objectives.
    - The role of storytelling and data in demonstrating the value of partnerships.
    - The benefits of having a dedicated strategic partner management function.
    Timestamps
    05:06: Structured Partnerships at ExactTarget
    07:20: Advanced Partnership Strategies at ExactTarget
    09:43: Measuring Partnership Value and Incrementality
    11:29: Transition to Salesforce and Cultural Integration
    14:43: Integrating ExactTarget Partners into the Salesforce Ecosystem
    17:32: Current Role and Team Structure at Movable Ink
    20:03: Measuring Success and Attach Rate at Movable Ink
    22:07: Balancing Partner Influence and Internal Perception
    24:53: Compensation Structure for Partner Teams
    27:28: Strategic Partner Management and Goal Setting
    30:48: Transition from Director to VP at Movable Ink
    34:15: Articulating Business Case for Additional Resources
    37:38: Longevity in Partnerships Role and Career Growth
    40:10: Navigating Internal Relationships and Friction
    43:13: Strategic Partnerships and Executive-Level Conversations
    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,000 members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.
    Find us on:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/partnership-leaders
    Apple Podcasts: https://link.partnershipleaders.com/gw-applepodcasts
    Spotify: https://link.partnershipleaders.com/gw-spotify
    #partnerships #marketingtech #movableink

    46 min
  • Episode 45 - Eleanor Thompson of Branchworks

    In this episode, Tai Rattigan chats with Eleanor Thompson about her journey in partnerships, from starting at Blue Prism to founding Branchworks. They discuss the concept of a funded head, the importance of internal enablement, and strategies for aligning sales and marketing teams.


    Eleanor also shares practical tips on navigating attribution challenges and building strong partner relationships. This episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone looking to enhance their partnership strategies and drive business growth.


    03:26 - The Concept of a Funded Head

    05:06 - Role and Experience with Resellers

    06:37 - How Reseller Businesses Operate

    07:59 - Relationship Management in Sales

    09:10 - Channel Conflict and Direct Sales

    10:31 - Standing Out in a Reseller Environment

    12:55 - Internal Enablement and Alignment

    15:28 - Successful Internal Enablement Examples

    17:45 - Responsibility for Internal Enablement

    19:23 - Time Split Between Partner Activities and Internal Enablement

    21:59 - Celebrating Wins and Continuous Enablement

    23:18 - Attribution Challenges with Sales and Marketing

    26:15 - Engaging Executive Leadership for Alignment

    29:42 - Encouraging AE's to Work with Partners

    31:41 - Marketing and Attribution Conflicts

    34:03 - Solutions for Attribution Issues

    37:24 - Educating Partners on Deal Logging

    39:40 - Engaging CEO's and Founders Early

    42:30 - Supporting Partnership Leaders with Resources

    45:24 - Advocating for Resources and Training

    48:38 - Building a Budget and Hiring Plan


    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,700 members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.


    #Partnerships #BusinessGrowth #Leadership #Branchworks #Ecosystem

    52 min
  • Episode 44 - Alexander Shyshko of Outbound Funnel

    In this episode, Alexander Shyshko takes us through his career journey, starting in direct sales and his transition to partnerships. Now the CRO at Outbound Funnel, Alex shares his insights on how his passion for building relationships has shaped his career and current role.


    He and Tai cover the following:


    - Differences between working in tech companies and running an agency.

    - The importance of capacity planning in agencies.

    - Strategies for managing capacity, including efficient hiring and talent deployment.

    - The role of standardization in process optimization and client satisfaction.


    Timestamps:


    00:43: Alex's Journey into Partnerships

    02:45: Transition to Agency Work

    03:24: Differences Between Tech Companies and Agencies

    04:27: Treating Agency Partners as Extensions

    05:28: Importance of Capacity Planning

    06:48: Challenges of Scaling in an Agency

    07:54: Capacity Planning Process

    08:59: Empathizing with Capacity Constraints

    10:01: Standardizing Processes in Agencies

    11:01: Seamless Handoffs Between Partners and Agencies

    12:03: Customizing Projects for Specific Clients

    13:35: Ensuring Project Success with Proper Planning

    15:43: Balancing Referrals and Capacity

    17:14: Financial Incentives for Agencies

    18:46: Strategic Use of Agency Partners

    20:18: Enhancing Customer Success with Agencies

    22:43: High-Impact Referrals from Agencies

    25:21: Standardizing Statements of Work (SOW)

    27:23: Customizing SOWs for Unique Client Needs

    29:26: Transparency and Documentation in Agency Work

    31:18: Importance of Continuous Collaboration

    33:05: Educating Partners and Teams

    35:07: Accountability and Timeline Management

    37:10: Sharing Control in the Sales Process


    Partnership Leaders is a premier industry association for partnership, channel, and business development professionals. As a leading community, it connects over 1,000 members worldwide, facilitating virtual events, sharing insights, and promoting personal and professional development.


    #partnerships #saaspartnerships #ecosystems

    41 min

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Groundwork features leaders building partnerships ecosystems at the best tech companies around the world. Hosted by Tai Rattigan and developed by Partnership Leaders, this podcast will help you gain…