Jason Kirk joins Paul and April for a fun conversation about growing up evangelical. Jason is the author of the funny ex-vangelical novel Hell Is A World Without You and co-host of Vacation Bible School — a podcast with his wife, Emily.

We also react to clips of Pastor Mark Driscoll and the drama he caused at the Stronger Men's Conference this past weekend.

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