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In this episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner sits down with spiritual teacher and former military chaplain Phil McLemore to explore the profound idea that Jesus’ teachings reflect the same principles found in the ancient yoga traditions. This conversation examines meditation, divine nature, Christ consciousness, and the difference between a “deficiency model” and a “wholeness model” of spiritual growth.
You’ll learn:
This conversation invites listeners to rediscover a mystical dimension of Christianity that focuses less on shame and more on awakening to the divine nature within.
If you’re interested in Christian mysticism, meditation, Christ consciousness, and spiritual awakening within a Christ-centered framework, this episode will expand your perspective.
Timestamps00:00 – Introduction to the episode and Phil McLemore
02:40 – Why this conversation is about “The Yoga of Christ”
03:45 – Phil’s spiritual crisis and health journey
05:30 – Discovering meditation and yoga for healing
07:00 – The identity crisis: Christian or yogi?
08:20 – A prophetic blessing that shaped Phil’s path
10:40 – The dilemma of two different views of Jesus
13:10 – Authentic Christianity as relationship with the living Christ
15:30 – Repentance as transformation of mind and heart
17:00 – Seeking truth across spiritual traditions
18:30 – The insight: “Take my yoke” and the meaning of yoga
21:00 – Christ consciousness and spiritual rebirth
23:30 – Two models of salvation: deficiency vs wholeness
26:30 – Why shame-based spirituality struggles to transform people
28:00 – The pearl of great price and our divine nature
30:00 – Rediscovering the lost mysticism of Christianity
33:00 – The question: What is the yoga of Jesus?
34:30 – The four classical paths of yoga explained
35:00 – Bhakti Yoga: the path of love and devotion
36:20 – Karma Yoga: the path of selfless service
37:30 – Jnana Yoga: the path of wisdom and knowledge
38:30 – Raja Yoga: the path of meditation
39:30 – Why Jesus embodied all four yogic paths
41:00 – Did Jesus practice meditation?
42:30 – Communion with God and the practice of non-attachment
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In this episode of House of Learning: Understanding the Doctrine of the Temple, Meghan Farner and Cory Jensen explore three major covenant structures found throughout scripture — the Sinai covenant, the Davidic covenant, and the Abrahamic covenant — and how all three operate within what is called the “new and everlasting covenant.”
This lesson reveals how God mercifully extends covenant relationships to humanity through multiple structures: collective covenants with nations and communities, intercessory covenants through proxy saviors, and personal covenants with individuals and their posterity. Together, these patterns reveal a divine system designed to bless, gather, protect, and spiritually mature God’s children across generations.
You’ll learn:
✨ What the Sinai covenant teaches about collective covenant responsibility
✨ How the Davidic covenant reveals intercession, proxy leadership, and spiritual stewardship
✨ Why Jesus Christ is the ultimate intercessor and covenant mediator
✨ How the Abrahamic covenant demonstrates personal covenant relationship and divine promise
✨ Why God honors covenant across time, nations, and generations
✨ How covenant structures support spiritual ascension and becoming
✨ What the “new and everlasting covenant” truly means
This episode also explores biblical examples including Moses, David, Hezekiah, Abraham, Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon covenant tradition, and how covenant structures may continue to unfold in modern spiritual development.
If you’ve ever wondered how covenants operate beyond individual belief, how intercession functions spiritually, or how God organizes collective spiritual growth, this lesson offers deep insight and spiritual coherence.
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⚠️ This content reflects personal spiritual study and interpretation. Viewers are encouraged to seek personal revelation, honor sacred covenants, and engage with discernment.
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In this episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner unpacks one of the most mysterious visions in scripture: Jacob’s Ladder (Genesis 28).
Far from a story about life after death, Jacob’s Ladder is revealed as a living blueprint for spiritual embodiment — the pattern of descending into matter and reascending into divine awareness while still in the flesh.
Drawing connections across ancient traditions, Kabbalah, alchemy, astrology, Gnostic cosmology, Egyptian initiation, and Christian mysticism, Meghan explores:
This episode reframes Jacob’s declaration — “This is the gate of heaven” — as an inward revelation: the temple is you.
If you are studying the Old Testament, exploring esoteric Christianity, or walking the path of spiritual initiation, this episode offers a grounded yet expansive lens on the ladder that exists within your own anatomy, psychology, and soul.
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction & app announcements
04:22 Genesis 28: Jacob’s vision
07:13 The ladder across ancient traditions
09:15 The law of correspondence (“as above, so below”)
10:58 Descension into matter & reascension
12:42 The cyclical, chiastic nature of the ladder
The Seven Rungs
18:27 Rung 1 – From shame to purification
22:47 Rung 2 – From intellectual pride to embodied wisdom
25:55 Rung 3 – Attachment to emotional regulation
30:02 Rung 4 – Fear to courage (center of the chiasm)
34:24 Rung 5 – Aggression to clarity & truth
37:57 Rung 6 – External authority to spiritual sovereignty
39:59 Rung 7 – Integration & joy
41:51 Rung 8 – Encountering Christ
44:58 Mary Magdalene’s ascent vision
55:41 “The house of God is within you”
57:19 Invitation into spiritual education
Resources:
The Ascent Vision of Mary Magdalene
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In this episode of House of Learning: Understanding the Doctrine of the Temple, Meghan Farner and Cory Jensen explore covenants not as legal contracts or religious checklists, but as sacred relationships of love, union, and spiritual transformation with God.
This lesson reframes covenant as an invitation into intimate relationship — the merging of identity, loyalty, and purpose between God and the soul. Drawing from biblical symbolism, ancient covenant patterns, and temple theology, the discussion reveals why covenant is ultimately relational rather than transactional.
You’ll learn:
✨ Why covenant means relationship, not merely agreement
✨ How ancient covenants symbolized the merging of identity and unity of heart
✨ Why pride and spiritual superiority undermine covenant consciousness
✨ The three components of covenant: initiation, obligations, and blessings
✨ How Christ is revealed in scripture as the Bridegroom
✨ The spiritual meaning of sacred marriage symbolism
✨ The Hebrew concept of hesed (covenant love and loving-kindness)
✨ How covenant deepens personal intimacy with God
This episode also explores how covenant relationships evolve through spiritual growth, how divine mercy supports the learning process, and why God’s desire is union rather than compliance. Viewers are invited to reconsider their relationship with Christ as one of devotion, trust, love, and becoming.
If you’ve ever felt that faith has become overly transactional, rigid, or institutional, this lesson offers a healing and expansive vision of covenant as sacred relationship and divine intimacy.
🌿 This episode is part of a 17-week course releasing weekly on YouTube.
🌿 For guided reflection, journaling tools, deeper study resources, and community conversation, explore the Hidden Wisdom app (link below).
⚠️ This content reflects personal spiritual study and interpretation. Viewers are encouraged to seek personal revelation, honor sacred covenants, and engage with discernment.
Learn more at: https://meghanfarner.com
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In this heartfelt and expansive episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner is joined by Shayna Persad, yoga teacher, womb healer, astrologer, and creator of Healing with Shayna, for a powerful conversation on conscious motherhood as a path of spiritual awakening.
Shayna shares her journey from a Catholic upbringing into divine feminine embodiment, womb wisdom, and conscious parenting—exploring how children act as mirrors for unhealed wounds, nervous system dysregulation, and inherited patterns. Together, Meghan and Shayna unpack the difference between conscious parenting and permissive parenting, the role of boundaries, and why many “good” children are actually responding to trauma rather than safety.
This episode weaves together spirituality, psychology, astrology, and motherhood to reframe parenting not as control or hierarchy, but as partnership, guidance, and soul-level remembrance. They also explore how our views of parenting shape our views of God, authority, and agency—and why healing the “bad mom” wound is essential for feminine wholeness.
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In this episode of House of Learning: Understanding the Doctrine of the Temple, Meghan Farner and Cory Jensen explore what “saving ordinances” truly mean — and challenge the common assumption that symbolic rituals are salvific in and of themselves.
This lesson reframes temple ordinances not as spiritual hall passes or automatic guarantees of salvation, but as symbolic invitations into real spiritual transformation, covenant relationship, and lived discipleship through the grace of Jesus Christ.
Using a well-known quote from Brigham Young as a starting point, the discussion unpacks why memorizing signs, tokens, or participating in ceremonies alone cannot save a person — and how those symbols instead point toward deeper spiritual realities that must be experienced, embodied, and received through grace.
You’ll learn:
✨ Why ordinances are a means, not an end
✨ How symbols represent real spiritual experiences and gifts of grace
✨ The danger of reducing temple worship to performance or compliance
✨ Why God is interested in who we are becoming, not just what we are doing
✨ How ancient Israel struggled with the same misunderstanding
✨ How the Book of Mormon functions as a temple text
✨ What it means to “see beyond the symbol” into spiritual reality
This episode invites viewers to move beyond surface-level religious participation into conscious spiritual growth, discernment, and personal transformation in Christ.
If you’ve ever wondered whether ordinances alone can save you, how grace actually works, or how temple symbolism connects to lived spiritual experience, this lesson provides clarity and depth.
🌿 This episode is part of a 17-week course releasing weekly on YouTube.
🌿 For guided reflection, journaling tools, deeper study resources, and community conversation, explore the Hidden Wisdom app (link below).
⚠️ This content reflects personal spiritual study and interpretation. Viewers are encouraged to seek personal revelation, honor sacred covenants, and engage with discernment.
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In this expansive episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner is joined by theologian and author Michelle Wiener to explore the hidden feminine thread within the Abrahamic tradition.
Drawing from Michelle’s book Return to Mamre: Recovering the Melchizedek Mysteries Beneath the Sacred Groves, this conversation reframes Abraham and Sarah not merely as patriarch and matriarch, but as participants in a sacred matrimonial priesthood order — a divine pairing of priest and priestess rooted in ancient sacred groves, temple imagery, and cosmic symbolism.
Together, they explore:
This episode invites listeners into deeper discernment, symbolic literacy, and spiritual maturity — reclaiming a balanced priesthood of partnership rather than hierarchy.
If you’ve ever wondered whether the sacred feminine was truly erased from scripture — and how to recover her — this conversation will expand your lens.
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In this special bonus episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan and McKay Farner share the talks they delivered in sacrament meeting on the greatest commandment: to "love thy neighbor as thyself."
Meghan explores the often-overlooked doctrine of self-love through the lens of agape—the unconditional love that God is. She unpacks false beliefs (“unbelief”) that keep us stuck in shame and natural-man identity, reframing repentance as healing rather than punishment. Drawing from Mosiah 3:19, Doctrine & Covenants 93, Moroni 7, and the teachings of President David O. McKay, she invites listeners to see themselves as the “pearl of great price”—already worthy of divine love.
McKay then shares a powerful mission story that forever changed his understanding of loving your neighbor. Through personal experience—including stepping away from church activity—he reflects on charity without ulterior motive and what it truly means to love as Christ loves.
Together, these talks offer a message of hope, grace, and spiritual maturity:
You cannot hate yourself into holiness.
You cannot give a gift you have not received.
And love is not kindness with a destination attached.
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In this episode of House of Learning: Understanding the Doctrine of the Temple, Meghan Farner and Cory Jensen explore what ordinances truly are, why they matter spiritually, and how they function as the bridge between human effort and the saving power of Jesus Christ’s Atonement.
This lesson introduces a transformational framework for understanding ordinances as having three essential components: a physical action, a symbolic spiritual teaching, and a real spiritual manifestation or gift of grace. Using baptism as a primary example, the discussion reveals how ordinances are not merely symbolic rituals, but divinely designed pathways for spiritual rebirth, covenant relationship, and inner transformation.
You’ll learn:
✨ Why ordinances are the means by which we access the power of Christ’s Atonement
✨ The three essential components of every saving ordinance
✨ How baptism teaches death, rebirth, surrender, and resurrection
✨ What baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost truly represents
✨ Why ordinances are incomplete without spiritual manifestation
✨ How temple ordinances mirror these same spiritual patterns
✨ The meaning of signs, tokens, and covenant exchange
This episode invites viewers to move beyond automatic or surface-level participation in ordinances and toward lived spiritual experience, discernment, and conscious covenant relationship.
If you’ve ever wondered why ordinances matter, how they actually change us, or how temple rituals connect to real spiritual growth, this lesson provides essential clarity and spiritual depth.
🌿 This episode is part of a 17-week course releasing weekly on YouTube.
🌿 For guided reflection, journaling tools, deeper study resources, and community conversation, explore the Hidden Wisdom app (link below).
⚠️ This content reflects personal spiritual study and interpretation. Viewers are encouraged to seek personal revelation, honor sacred covenants, and engage with discernment.
Learn more at: https://meghanfarner.com
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In this expansive episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner is joined by returning guest Phil McLemore for a deep, practical teaching on meditation as the highest form of prayer. Phil presents meditation as an ancient practice of awareness, union with God, and transformation.
Together, they explore the difference between mindfulness and transcendental (yoga) meditation, why stillness is essential for spiritual perception, and how meditation aligns with Jesus’ own teachings on prayer, the inner kingdom, and becoming “one” with God. Phil offers step-by-step guidance on posture, breath, mantra, handling distractions, and receiving meditation as a feminine, receptive flow of grace rather than a forced effort.
This episode also addresses common fears around meditation, ego resistance, spiritual ego, emotional release, and discernment—grounding the practice firmly in Christ-centered theology, embodiment, and character transformation. For anyone seeking a deeper experience of God, inner healing, and true at-one-ment, this episode serves as both teaching and invitation.
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Initiating Truth-Seekers in the Mysteries, gently guiding them toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith - without dismantling family or…
Hidden Wisdom is a podcast for seekers who sense there’s more to faith than meets the eye. Drawing from LDS teachings, Christian mysticism, and universal esoteric principles, Hidden Wisdom bridges the worlds of religion and spirituality, inviting listeners to rediscover the sacred language of symbol and integrate the divine masculine and divine feminine within.
The Hidden Wisdom Podcast is part of a larger ecosystem of awakening tools — designed to spark insight, orient your soul, and point you toward deeper practices, community, and guided transformation available through the Hidden Wisdom app and courses.
Hidden Wisdom is hosted by Meghan Farner, mentor and author of “Consider Yourself as Eve: A Guide to Spiritual Development for Women (and the Men Who Love Them.)
Learn more at meghanfarner.com
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