HR leaders say they want a seat at the table—but too often, they show up without speaking the language. In this episode, David talks with Julie Mahfouz Rezvani, Managing Director of The Orion Group, about the critical gap between HR's people expertise and the commercial acumen needed to drive real business impact. Julie brings clarity to the misunderstood concept of "HR as a cost center," unpacking the ways HR can become indispensable by translating people insights into financial impact.

They dig into the basics: How does your company make money? What's your revenue per employee? And if you can't answer that, why should your CFO listen to you? It's a candid conversation that calls HR professionals to step up, understand the business model, and learn to speak the language of the C-suite—not by mimicking it, but by reframing people problems in business terms.

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