Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

How Does Trump’s Violent Rhetoric End?

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How worried should we really be about the threat of political violence? On this week’s episode of “Matter of Opinion,” columnist Jamelle Bouie joins the hosts to set the record straight on whether we’re actually living through an unusually violent era, and they discuss whether the new movie, “Civil War,” could come true.

Plus, Keanu Reeves in his most beautiful form yet.

(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)

Recommended in this episode:

  • “Oath and Honor: A Memoir and a Warning” by Liz Cheney
  • “Johnny Mnemonic: In Black & White,” a 2022 rerelease of Robert Longo’s 1995 film

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