Niche & nerdy content warning!!!!

Many of you loved the behind the scenes recordings in the second half of the budget episode earlier this week.

I catch up with Kayla Malss, who is in town to record "this is business" podcast episodes with me on how I got invited to the federal budget lockup and gained unprecedented access to ministers during and after lockup.

This is an audio extract of the full episode that's on YouTube, which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9u700DdO8&t=28s

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