In this episode of The Wise Effort Show, host Diana Hill is joined by her co-author and biomechanist Katy Bowman and they talk with health psychologist Dr. Kelly McGonigal. They discuss how to fall in love with movement by discussing Diana and Katy's new book, "I Know I Should Exercise, But...44 Reasons We Don't Move and How to Get Over Them." In it, they promote a flexible, inclusive approach to removing the many barriers we have bringing more movement into life. The conversation dives into overcoming psychological and environmental barriers, understanding the physical, emotional, and social benefits of movement, and redefining exercise to suit personal needs and life stages.

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