In this podcast episode, Kiyomi interviewed Nicholas, founder of @thewaveandtheocean on Instagram. In this powerful episode, they speak about what it's like being a male and having Relationship OCD, the stigma attached, and common characteristics that come with being a male with ROCD. They also talked about marriage, commitment, feelings of boredom in security, attraction. They also spoke heavily about what Relationship OCD has taught him, how it helped him awaken and how you can make ROCD/anxiety work for YOU.